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21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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Can you please confirm what the average salary is in Copenhagen for a senior developer ? Thanks

I can confirm around 100k (pounds) in London, unless you're going to the giants (FB, Google) that go above that.

Lol no. That’s delusional in London, unless you take into account day rate work

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Certainly it isn't the same in absolute terms? You can get a two-bedroom apartment in Copenhagen for $300,000 or so. I haven't heard of any place in Europe where you can expect to make anything close to this for any normal software engineering role. (I earn around, maybe less than half the average in this graph, in Norway).

The thing about Copenhagen property (and I expect this is true for all the Nordic countries) is that is closed to foreign investors - you can only buy if you're a permanent resident, and even if you come from EU, you can get the status after 5 years of living there. So not an easy market to get into as a buyer, but it helps having sane prices for locals, which IMHO is the way to go.

In germany you can buy property as a foreigner.

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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The graph seems related to the graph of venture funding over the same period: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_VC_funding.png Which is not surprising considering that salaries are the number one thing venture funding is spent on.

it depends on whether you believe VC money is driving the salary change or the overall profitability of the industry reflected by salary is driving VC's investment decisions.

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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I'm French, I'm not a software engineer because I don't have the degree, but I can read every language out there, I speak English pretty well, I know how to do proper research to fix things, and as I saw in the comments, the situation here is very weird.

I have been unemployed my whole life, my medical condition might have something to do with it, but when I hear that French companies put a lot of faith in a degree I'm still disappointed. There might be some hr failure somewhere.

Job markets are weird. I'm still curious about working remotely for an American company. Can it be achieved? How is that done?

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As someone who hasn’t even worked in the US, let alone SF, is this a typical wage for that area? I live in a small European city, earning around half this, but my outgoings are a lot less (under €1k/mo) than what I would be paying in SF, so I’m probably saving more at the end of the day. I’d argue my lifestyle is a lot better too.

>I’d argue my lifestyle is a lot better too. Looks like the majority of the European "better lifestyle" involves convincing people on the internet that making a fraction of a Bay Area salary is somehow a good thing.

I think we (Europeans) generally argue that paying taxes and universal healthcare is great not that earning less is. Also while some professions pay less others pay more (like working in a grocery store) so it’s not that clear cut.

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Can you please confirm what the average salary is in Copenhagen for a senior developer ? Thanks

I can confirm around 100k (pounds) in London, unless you're going to the giants (FB, Google) that go above that.

Don't forget about hedge funds. Judging from the messages I get from recruiters there are plenty of them.

Their offer total compensations significantly above 100k£

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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As someone who hasn’t even worked in the US, let alone SF, is this a typical wage for that area? I live in a small European city, earning around half this, but my outgoings are a lot less (under €1k/mo) than what I would be paying in SF, so I’m probably saving more at the end of the day. I’d argue my lifestyle is a lot better too.

I’d say it’s about typical for that area, however it’s worth noting that the area is by no means typical relative to anywhere else.

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Can you please confirm what the average salary is in Copenhagen for a senior developer ? Thanks

I can confirm around 100k (pounds) in London, unless you're going to the giants (FB, Google) that go above that.

according to itjobswatch:

65k median 50k 10th percentile 90k 90th percentile

https://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/senior%20developer.do

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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I'm French, I'm not a software engineer because I don't have the degree, but I can read every language out there, I speak English pretty well, I know how to do proper research to fix things, and as I saw in the comments, the situation here is very weird. I have been unemployed my whole life, my medical condition might have something to do with it, but when I hear that French companies put a lot of faith in a degree I…

Being a software engineer should be about what you do, not which degree you have. In the (French) company I work in, one of the lead devs doesn’t even have his baccalauréat; that doesn’t make him any less 1- talented and 2- a software engineer.
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