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Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by goldenkey » Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 3:04 AM UTC

applebeesam wrote: post #49

goldenkey wrote: post #40

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You hit it on the nail. The article is actually somewhat of an advertisement. The author is signaling about his "master status" as an exemplar of this iconiclastic lifestyle. He needs to do this to sell his self-help books, tutorials, advice, etc. He also needs to gain the credibility so he is invited for talks for those mostly marketing based "Hacker Cons" where a bunch of semi believable tinkerers tell their storie…

Hahaha no plans to be th next Tony Robbins just yet but I'll let you know when I start my cult ;)

Hahahaha, good one! I actually really love B. K. Robbins - he is my favorite motivational sneaker! The way he speaks is so deliciously appetizing!

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by nickthemagicman » Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 4:14 AM UTC

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #77

nickthemagicman wrote: post #60

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The modified jeep alone was 50k or more. Gas is 5k.

He said gas was 7k and the jeep was 6k, for the trip he referred to as costing 27k. The Africa trip is another jeep, the jeep itself didn't exist when he did his first 27k two year trip, and indeed he modified it a lot. Probably a lot more expensive but also not necessary. Where'd you find the 50k number?

A new Rubicon is 37k plus at least 10k of modifications.

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by nickthemagicman » Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 4:16 AM UTC

grecy wrote: post #85

nickthemagicman wrote: post #60

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The modified jeep alone was 50k or more. Gas is 5k.

My Jeep was not even close to 50k. I bought it used for $22,500 CAD.

Yeah but your modifications alone gotta run at least 10k.

I have a van I'm modding out and a roof rack and reinforced bumper alone is 6k.

The point is you have income from somewhere that allows you to be carefree with your time and money.

It feels a little disingenuous when people say "I will never go back to full time 9-5 5 days a week."

Like it's a choice most people have.

It's like Donald Trump saying he's a great business man and you should take his advice...when he really inherited a ton of money.

This is all speculation on my part though and I really wish you the best no matter what your situation is.

Looks like an amazing trip! Stay safe!

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by icebraining » Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 5:52 AM UTC

eesmith wrote: post #89

icebraining wrote: post #82

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Not sure how this conversation went into parental leave - I actually know fathers who've taken that :) But that's just a month or so. I was talking about working fewer hours (rather than stopping altogether) on a longer-term basis. I find that much harder to achieve than taking a leave, which is similar to regular vacations, which companies are used to handle.

I did consulting work for a Swedish company. They have very generous parental leave policies, including people who were on 50% time for a year. I also read that in some of the European countries (I'm from the US) there is a right to part-time employment while on leave. I figured that mosselman was from one of those countries. Searching now I found http://cepr.net/documents/publications/parental_2008_09.pdf from 10 ye…

Thanks for the link! I had no idea our law allowed for that!

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by icebraining » Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 5:54 AM UTC

grecy wrote: post #83

icebraining wrote: post #4

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Nice, glad it's working out for you! Just curious, you wrote that you funded the first expedition by saving from your salary, but how are you paying for the second?

I worked a 9-5 for 5 years, saved every penny and now I'm living on that!

Thanks! I should definitively save more :)

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by grecy » Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 10:47 AM UTC

nickthemagicman wrote: post #93

grecy wrote: post #85

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My Jeep was not even close to 50k. I bought it used for $22,500 CAD.

Yeah but your modifications alone gotta run at least 10k. I have a van I'm modding out and a roof rack and reinforced bumper alone is 6k. The point is you have income from somewhere that allows you to be carefree with your time and money. It feels a little disingenuous when people say "I will never go back to full time 9-5 5 days a week." Like it's a choice most people have. It's like Donald Trump saying he's a great…

Sure, the modifications were around $10k, which means the total price was A LOT lower than $50k.

And no, I don't have "income from somewhere".

I worked a 9-5 for 5 years and saved every penny I could, now I'm living on those savings. Yes, I'm trying to earn some money on the road, and it's currently covering about 25% of my monthly expenses.

> It feels a little disingenuous when people say "I will never go back to full time 9-5 5 days a week." Like it's a choice most people have.

I think it's sad you think like that. It is a choice, if you want it to be. It's hard work, and requires changing around your priorities, but it absolutely is a choice. I have met hundreds and hundreds of people doing it [1], including families with kids, including people from every walk of life you can image.

[1] I'm interviewing interesting people I meet living on the road - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNiCe5roBX1gdbLoAclKw...

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by grecy » Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 10:49 AM UTC

acidburnNSA wrote: post #46

grecy wrote: post #2

I'm full nomad right now - driving my Jeep around Africa for 2 years - something like 80,000 miles through 30 countries over 2 years. [1] I'm absolutely loving it. I will never go back to full time 9-5 5 days a week. At this point, I don't even consider it life. Previously I drove Alaska to Argentina - 16 countries over 2 years and 40,000 miles. I also loved every second of that! [2] [1] http://theroadchoseme.com/afr…

Any idea what your Carbon footprint it? I've always been curious about this.

I have not figured it out, though I suspect it's lower than the average North American going to work every day.

I only drive about 60 miles on average per day. I have no electricity use. I don't buy "stuff" (clothes, TV, couch, furniture).

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by bromuro » Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 12:58 PM UTC

goldenkey wrote: post #33

grecy wrote: post #2

I'm full nomad right now - driving my Jeep around Africa for 2 years - something like 80,000 miles through 30 countries over 2 years. [1] I'm absolutely loving it. I will never go back to full time 9-5 5 days a week. At this point, I don't even consider it life. Previously I drove Alaska to Argentina - 16 countries over 2 years and 40,000 miles. I also loved every second of that! [2] [1] http://theroadchoseme.com/afr…

I agree, 9-5 isn't a life. But traveling 24/7 isn't a life either. We travel to get to a destination. When you make traveling a constant inecessity it just kills the joy within it. Seems like more of a symbol of indifference rather than actual character growth.

We (nomads) don’t travel to get to a destination - the travel itself is the destination

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by dwaltrip » Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 10:07 PM UTC

IanDrake wrote: post #73

dwaltrip wrote: post #69

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> Your non-profit status is meaningless to anyone who understands corporate structures Care to clue the rest of us in?

Sure. Besides the technical differences in ownership structure which you can easily google, the reality of nonprofits is that in most cases the founder stands to make as much money (yearly) as the founder of a for-profit company. For example, let’s say I have and s-Corp and it provides me with, let’s say, 100k of salary and my pass through income (profit) of 25k. I could alternatively have created a nonprofit giving…

Thanks for the response. That is good information to know.

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by goldenkey » Sun, Dec 31, 2017, 6:37 PM UTC

bromuro wrote: post #98

goldenkey wrote: post #33

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I agree, 9-5 isn't a life. But traveling 24/7 isn't a life either. We travel to get to a destination. When you make traveling a constant inecessity it just kills the joy within it. Seems like more of a symbol of indifference rather than actual character growth.

We (nomads) don’t travel to get to a destination - the travel itself is the destination

You and I both know that is misleading. Travel is the same whether you are in a moving plane or cramped fake one in a movie studio. It's the places. Perhaps the ones seen transiently through the train window while in motion. But how can you bottle up traveling into a static and repeatable phenomena??