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Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by Toast_25 »

PoachedSausage wrote: post #34
grecy wrote: post #2

I'm full nomad right now - driving my Jeep around Africa for 2 years - something like 80,000 miles through 30 countries over 2 years. [1] I'm absolutely loving it. I will never go back to full time 9-5 5 days a week. At this point, I don't even consider it life. Previously I drove Alaska to Argentina - 16 countries over 2 years and 40,000 miles. I also loved every second of that! [2] [1] http://theroadchoseme.com/afr…

At one point I was tempted to try buying a boat and becoming a sea gypsy, problem is boats are expensive holes in water that you pour more money into. I also have the problem that my hobby-job revolves around making and tinkering with electronics, Tesla coils, radios machines etc. I would simply get bored without access to a well equipped electronics lab and mechanical workshop. So until I can afford a super yacht it…

Doesn't Simone Giertz do this? Maybe you should look into her.

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by Toast_25 »

globcal wrote: post #29

I love the nomad lifestyle, in the US being a nomad was easy especially if you have a big vehicle (I had a bus) because once you pass the suspect screens that the police implement to get a green light in their system you are no longer harassed. Here in South America it is different most foreigners are treated very well backpacking or with a vehicle, if you know the language and present yourself well. It is very hard…

What part of south america are you in, if you don't mind me asking? I'm living in south america and I'm worried about the lack of safety drug cartels cause, making me travel less often than I'd like.

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by IanDrake »

dwaltrip wrote: post #69
IanDrake wrote: post #63

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I mean no disrespect, but perhaps my honest opinion might help a you a bit, though I could be totally wrong. Your hook, “Super Global is a nonprofit tech advisory service for social impact organizations .”, makes me feel like you think I’m stupid and is personally a turn off. You’re an IT consultant that specializes in the charity industry. Everything else is just buzzword bingo. Your non-profit status is meaningless…

> Your non-profit status is meaningless to anyone who understands corporate structures Care to clue the rest of us in?

Sure. Besides the technical differences in ownership structure which you can easily google, the reality of nonprofits is that in most cases the founder stands to make as much money (yearly) as the founder of a for-profit company.

For example, let’s say I have and s-Corp and it provides me with, let’s say, 100k of salary and my pass through income (profit) of 25k.

I could alternatively have created a nonprofit giving myself a 100k salary and bonus myself 25k - what would have been profit. In this way, I’d end up with 125k and the company ends up with no profit.

The details are different but the results are nearly the same.

One major difference is that the founder of a nonprofit can’t sell the organization.

Again though, the reality is that they can be given a do-nothing role in the company and receive what could be understood as compensation for the exchange.

Sadly, many nonprofits are set up for the benefit of their founders and cronies, thus nonprofits aren’t always as virtuous as you would be led to believe.

Also, I should note, incase anyone is unfamiliar, nonprofit != charity. A charity is a special type of non-profit.

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Post by mnm1 »

icebraining wrote: post #22
mosselman wrote: post #8

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It isn’t either or: you don’t need to work 9-5 in order to have a family and friends, the only alternative being driving through Africa. He just said 9-5 isn’t life and I think he is right. I work 9-5 and now that I am a father I will beging cut down work. I find it a lot more rewarding to see my daughter starting to crawl than building some software for someone.

If you don't mind me asking, how will you cut down work? Is your employer willing to just reduce your hours, or do you have other plan? I don't plan on cutting back yet, but I'd like to know for the future, since I've never actually met a career professional doing so.

Be good at what you do. Do it in half the time. Work from home so no one complains that you're getting all of the work done in half the time (people will complain about everything). Of course, you have to find a position that isn't a sweatshop to begin with for this to work. Small businesses--not startups--can be good places to practice this.

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by eesmith »

IanDrake wrote: post #73
dwaltrip wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your non-profit status is meaningless to anyone who understands corporate structures Care to clue the rest of us in?

Sure. Besides the technical differences in ownership structure which you can easily google, the reality of nonprofits is that in most cases the founder stands to make as much money (yearly) as the founder of a for-profit company. For example, let’s say I have and s-Corp and it provides me with, let’s say, 100k of salary and my pass through income (profit) of 25k. I could alternatively have created a nonprofit giving…

I'll add another example, which I heard about in the context of charter schools. I'm quoting from http://curmudgucation.blogspot.com/2016/07/for-hrc-profit-vs... :

> I set up my non-profit school-- and then I hire a profitable management company to run the school for me. The examples of this dodge are nearly endless, but let's consider a classic. There's the White Hat management company that was being dragged into court way back in 2011. This particular type of arrangement was known as a "sweeps contract,' in which the school turns over close to all of its public tax dollars and the company operates the school with that money-- and keeps whatever they don't spend. The White Hat story is particularly impressive, because the court decided that White Hat got to keep all of the materials and resources that it bought with the public tax dollars.

> Or consider North Carolina businessman Baker Mitchell, who set up some non-profit charter schools and promptly had them buy and lease everything-- from desks to computers to teacher training to the buildings and the land-- from companies belonging to Baker Mitchell. ...

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by eesmith »

icebraining wrote: post #22
mosselman wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn’t either or: you don’t need to work 9-5 in order to have a family and friends, the only alternative being driving through Africa. He just said 9-5 isn’t life and I think he is right. I work 9-5 and now that I am a father I will beging cut down work. I find it a lot more rewarding to see my daughter starting to crawl than building some software for someone.

If you don't mind me asking, how will you cut down work? Is your employer willing to just reduce your hours, or do you have other plan? I don't plan on cutting back yet, but I'd like to know for the future, since I've never actually met a career professional doing so.

It looks like mosselman lives in the Netherlands. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15497755 . You are in Portugal (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8029643 ), which also has paternity leave. One difference, according to http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portugal-among-best-for-... , is that:

> Portugal is the member state with the fifth longest period of paternity leave, with a potential of 21 weeks to care for their newborns. However, this report paints a different picture when it comes to the division of domestic chores. Here, Portugal joins Estonia, India, Japan, Mexico, South Korea and Turkey as among the countries where women put in three times more time on such tasks than their male counterparts.

That sounds in Portugal fathers are more expected to work/be a career man, and mothers stay home, than in the Netherlands.

Re: I went full nomad and it almost broke me

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Post by IkmoIkmo »

nickthemagicman wrote: post #60
IkmoIkmo wrote: post #11

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The first trip was in 2009-2011. His second trip started in 2016. He must've put in some work inbetween. He's also monetised his traveling with books, partners etc. More importantly though, from the info he posted, it shows he spends about $1200 a month traveling mostly through South-America. Which isn't too crazy, gdp per capita in the continent is about $450, Africa is even 'easier', in that the gdp per capita is a…

The modified jeep alone was 50k or more. Gas is 5k.

He said gas was 7k and the jeep was 6k, for the trip he referred to as costing 27k.

The Africa trip is another jeep, the jeep itself didn't exist when he did his first 27k two year trip, and indeed he modified it a lot. Probably a lot more expensive but also not necessary. Where'd you find the 50k number?

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Post by icebraining »

eesmith wrote: post #76
icebraining wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't mind me asking, how will you cut down work? Is your employer willing to just reduce your hours, or do you have other plan? I don't plan on cutting back yet, but I'd like to know for the future, since I've never actually met a career professional doing so.

It looks like mosselman lives in the Netherlands. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15497755 . You are in Portugal ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8029643 ), which also has paternity leave. One difference, according to http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portugal-among-best-for-... , is that: > Portugal is the member state with the fifth longest period of paternity leave, with a potential of 21 weeks to car…

Nah, we're too poor for that: before the crisis, 87% of women between 25-to-44 had a job here (now they're just unemployed, not voluntarily staying-at-home).

They do most of the chores despite having jobs. We're a very patriarchal society still.

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Post by eesmith »

icebraining wrote: post #78
eesmith wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like mosselman lives in the Netherlands. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15497755 . You are in Portugal ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8029643 ), which also has paternity leave. One difference, according to http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portugal-among-best-for-... , is that: > Portugal is the member state with the fifth longest period of paternity leave, with a potential of 21 weeks to car…

Nah, we're too poor for that: before the crisis, 87% of women between 25-to-44 had a job here (now they're just unemployed, not voluntarily staying-at-home). They do most of the chores despite having jobs. We're a very patriarchal society still.

Point taken.

That answers your own question, does it not? That is, fathers don't take time off to spend more time with their babies because they are too poor to risk losing that job?

(This assumes that men tend to be paid more than women.)

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Post by icebraining »

eesmith wrote: post #79
icebraining wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, we're too poor for that: before the crisis, 87% of women between 25-to-44 had a job here (now they're just unemployed, not voluntarily staying-at-home). They do most of the chores despite having jobs. We're a very patriarchal society still.

Point taken. That answers your own question, does it not? That is, fathers don't take time off to spend more time with their babies because they are too poor to risk losing that job? (This assumes that men tend to be paid more than women.)

Fair enough, but I do know some (though not many) middle-class people who could afford it.
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