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Teens 'rebelling against social media', say headteachers

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Post by jdjeiiie310 »

oceanghost wrote: post #29
pgeorgep wrote: post #14

At some point, the general population has to realize that the relationship with social media is pretty one-sided. It's an egregiously impersonal landscape with zero regards for personal well being. Plain and simple, social media companies exist to cash in on your personal data. It's about time that a generation takes a stand.

It's not just the companies behind it that are a problem. The concept of civil debate and discourse is, in large part a thing of the past. Issue any opinion, politely, well reasoned on facebook and you most likely be savaged.

Better now than when civil discourse was considered “gentlemanly” pistol duels and the like?

Facebook flame wars seem rather tame by what used to be considered the civil way to resolve numerous types of disputes

Personally I quit social media and the world seems a lot kinder. Perhaps you need to just take a break

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Post by Terr_ »

3452354326 wrote: post #43

As a teenager (probably a bit younger than the average HN reader) there's definitely been a change in how we approach social media. Most kids now take advantage of privacy settings to moderate who can see what messages, often creating private or "fake" accounts that only a few friends can see that contrast with their "public" accounts. Ironically the "fake" accounts are more "real" due to the more honest and realisti…

As an older millennial, that feels more like a (beneficial) return to the past, where "On the Internet nobody knows you're a dog."

IMO the real issue isn't privacy controls per se, but the ability to keep disconnected identities. For example, I might not really care if a photo is visible to everybody, as long as it has no clues (location metadata, facial recognition, etc.) that allow someone to link it to my public persona.

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Post by vacri »

overcast wrote: post #8
willismichael wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made a goal to not sign into facebook for the summer of 2017 (I defined summer as all of June, July, and August). In September I signed back in and poked around a bit, only to feel like it was a waste of time and that I didn't have a compelling reason to stay. Maybe I should try the same experiment with Hacker News and other online forums that I frequent.

HN is a bit different scenario, most of us are here to discuss business and learn. Being text only also removes the fear of missing out, anxiety shit you get from people showing all the best moments of their lives.

> most of us are here to discuss business and learn

HN stopped being about business quite a while ago. It's a general-interest board now. For example, I literally can't recall the last time I saw an article on A/B testing on the front page, nor an article about how best to deal with employee issues from the employer's side. Or an article about how to increase your product's market reach.

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Post by kakarot »

overcast wrote: post #54
kakarot wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This works well if you are mainly a lurker, but not if you're looking to engage in a conversation while it's hot. For me, the article is often just an excuse for discourse around its themes, which I find much more stimulating. My personal angle for solving this problem of spending too much time sifting through news/comments is an auto-tagging and summarization platform built in Python with rss feeds as both input and…

This is for HN only?

No, the scope will be a few aggregators, news websites, blogs, twitter, and a few others.

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Post by gaius »

pgeorgep wrote: post #14

At some point, the general population has to realize that the relationship with social media is pretty one-sided. It's an egregiously impersonal landscape with zero regards for personal well being. Plain and simple, social media companies exist to cash in on your personal data. It's about time that a generation takes a stand.

It's about time that a generation takes a stand.

The monetisation is one aspect of course but a lot of the toxicity of social media comes from its hyper-politicisation and virtue signalling which coincided with the Millenials coming online. The quality of the discourse was then radically different from Usenet, IRC and other proto-social media like Livejournal.

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Post by propogandist »

steveeq1 wrote: post #27
dragontamer wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is a community of communities. Certain subreddits are incredibly toxic. Others are not. /r/factorio is one of the best communities I've ever been a part of for example. I guess the age-old rule applies. 90% of everything is crap.

What reddit communities do you consider "toxic"?

any community that's part of the default (r/all)

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Post by Can_Not »

hbosch wrote: post #62
3452354326 wrote: post #43

As a teenager (probably a bit younger than the average HN reader) there's definitely been a change in how we approach social media. Most kids now take advantage of privacy settings to moderate who can see what messages, often creating private or "fake" accounts that only a few friends can see that contrast with their "public" accounts. Ironically the "fake" accounts are more "real" due to the more honest and realisti…

> often creating private or "fake" accounts that only a few friends can see that contrast with their "public" accounts The younger sister of a family friend called this a "sin-stagram", but some people also call them by the more family-friendly "fun-stagrams" or "funstas". Kind of a hilarious concept, creating multiple social media accounts for multiple sides of your personality. Coincidentally I was reading an artic…

You also have people who don't know whether or not their relatives finding out about a tattoo, a joint smoked once, a non-objectively-default religious belief, alternative sex/gender preferences/orientations, a non-ear peircing, a non-traditional gender role, etc. will result in being screamed at daily at home, conversion camps, homelessness, bullying, ruin the next 30 thanksgivings, and/or likely other forms of child abuse.

So I think it's grotesque that there is legitimate danger in being yourself.

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Post by CaptSpify »

kakarot wrote: post #49
CaptSpify wrote: post #47

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Interesting. I use ttrss as well, do you have a blog-post or anything about how you are doing that?

I'm still in the prototyping phase, and juggling it between work and another side project. I have a decent understanding of the stack I will need. I have feed parsing and HTML/XML stripping in place, currently I'm comparing auto-tagging libraries and seeing if any of them meets all of my needs. If you're interested in bouncing around ideas and possibly contributing at some point (I plan to open source after the resea…

Nah, I wish I could but I don't have time |:(

I was hoping for something more drop-in ready, but if you do open-source it, I'd be interested. It sounds cool

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