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Teens 'rebelling against social media', say headteachers

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Re: Teens 'rebelling against social media', say headteachers

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Post by overcast »

anonacct37 wrote: post #28
overcast wrote: post #5

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Same, Reddit was the big one. Facebook happened years ago. Twitter gone. LinkedIN is just garbage. All useless wastes of time. HN is the only community I actively participate in for personal. Instagram is business only.

I really started to like instagram. Basically I realized at some point that: 1. Facebook was family, and I really don't care about their constant drama. 2. Twitter, for better or worse, is so political. I care, but I just can't handle being outraged 24 hours a day. 3. Linkedin is a cesspool of wannabe self-help gurus. Turns out that the only thing that I'd like to share that other people might actually be interested…

Instagram is tolerable, and it makes me money. But the amount of bullshit bots needs to stop, immediately. All of the garbage "aggregator" accounts that do nothing but steal everyone's work need to stop.

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Post by ekzy »

CaptSpify wrote: post #20
overcast wrote: post #8

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HN is a bit different scenario, most of us are here to discuss business and learn. Being text only also removes the fear of missing out, anxiety shit you get from people showing all the best moments of their lives.

Although I agree with you, I think the grandparent's point has merit. I've had to consciously curb my HN usage recently, and found it to be a struggle. I do think we get real and tangible benefits out of HN, but I guess the same could be said for more traditional social media as well.

I've been looking a bit more at "top of the week" on alt websites, and a bit less at the HN homepage. I think you can get most of it like this; maybe you could try. (e.g. http://www.hntoplinks.com/week or https://news.ycombinator.com/best)

Re: Teens 'rebelling against social media', say headteachers

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Post by danjoc »

brookside wrote: post #17
danjoc wrote: post #15

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I can see how that would be a problem. I'm pretty fortunate in that I have no real friends. I don't need to worry about people wanting to take pictures of/with me, much less post them on their facebooks.

I must say, this last addition to the thread makes you sound like less a content and healthy escapee of the social media vortex, and more of an isolated depressive. Quite a less inspiring model.

I was depressed when I thought I had friends, but they didn't treat me like one. I'm much happier in my current state.

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Post by jandrese »

dragontamer wrote: post #9
overcast wrote: post #5

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Same, Reddit was the big one. Facebook happened years ago. Twitter gone. LinkedIN is just garbage. All useless wastes of time. HN is the only community I actively participate in for personal. Instagram is business only.

Reddit is a community of communities. Certain subreddits are incredibly toxic. Others are not. /r/factorio is one of the best communities I've ever been a part of for example. I guess the age-old rule applies. 90% of everything is crap.

Ironic that a site that claims to be the frontpage of the Internet would have such a useless front page. I agree that individual communities are useful, but none of them are in the list of defaults that show up when you hit the front page when not logged in.

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Post by [deleted] »

GuiA wrote: post #26
dmihal wrote: post #23

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Can you explain why you don't want your photo on Facebook? It's one thing to chose to abstain from social media, but it feels more invasive to ask others to change what they post.

Because Facebook will still run its face detection algorithms etc., thus allowing them to build a database of information to resell to advertisers even if you don’t have an explicitly created Facebook page. I don’t see how asking friends to not post pictures of you online is invasive. However, posting pictures of someone online if they’ve asked you not to is extremely rude.

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Post by pavel_lishin »

pgeorgep wrote: post #14

At some point, the general population has to realize that the relationship with social media is pretty one-sided. It's an egregiously impersonal landscape with zero regards for personal well being. Plain and simple, social media companies exist to cash in on your personal data. It's about time that a generation takes a stand.

> At some point, the general population has to realize that the relationship with social media is pretty one-sided.

Sure, but most people use social media to maintain their relationships with people. Kids on Instagram aren't talking to Instagram - they're talking to their peers, friends, family.

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Post by devmunchies »

dmihal wrote: post #23
heroprotagonist wrote: post #10

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Try asking other people not to put your photo on Facebook. More people are becoming understanding about that, but there's still a range of responses like incredulity, contempt, or the inevitable person who wants to turn it into some kind of debate of abstract principles.

Can you explain why you don't want your photo on Facebook? It's one thing to chose to abstain from social media, but it feels more invasive to ask others to change what they post.

I ran into someone on the street who I haven't seen since high school (almost 10 years ago). She knew from Facebook that I had recently had a child. I don't use Facebook, but my wife does. The thing is that this old acquaintance doesn't follow my wife on fb.

Facebook is still profiling me. Its weird.

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Post by snerbles »

hacking_again wrote: post #22
brookside wrote: post #17

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I must say, this last addition to the thread makes you sound like less a content and healthy escapee of the social media vortex, and more of an isolated depressive. Quite a less inspiring model.

So we're labeling people as mentally ill with a view towards criticizing them and their opinions now?

The nail that sticks out will be hammered down.

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Post by evmar »

danjoc wrote: post #4
michaelmarion wrote: post #2

Took the plunge and deactivated my Facebook and Twitter accounts over a month ago. I haven't missed them.

Welcome to the club. I did this years ago. That was sincere. I found it is hard to talk about it without being treated like a smug asshole. It's like everyone who hears you talk about it, even other people doing it, interpret you as a zealot extremist or something. For instance, if I didn't include this paragraph, I would be flag killed.

The comment "Welcome to the club. I did this years ago." in isolation contributes nothing to the conversation. If you had posted it I probably would've downvoted it for that reason, not for the smugness.

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Post by kakarot »

ekzy wrote: post #32
CaptSpify wrote: post #20

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Although I agree with you, I think the grandparent's point has merit. I've had to consciously curb my HN usage recently, and found it to be a struggle. I do think we get real and tangible benefits out of HN, but I guess the same could be said for more traditional social media as well.

I've been looking a bit more at "top of the week" on alt websites, and a bit less at the HN homepage. I think you can get most of it like this; maybe you could try. (e.g. http://www.hntoplinks.com/week or https://news.ycombinator.com/best )

This works well if you are mainly a lurker, but not if you're looking to engage in a conversation while it's hot. For me, the article is often just an excuse for discourse around its themes, which I find much more stimulating.

My personal angle for solving this problem of spending too much time sifting through news/comments is an auto-tagging and summarization platform built in Python with rss feeds as both input and output, sending the output to a self-hosted TTRSS instance. I plan to also store the output in a database with robust query support.

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