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It only mentioned the digital displays. There may well be analogue, like most cars have.
No, Tesla and Elon have been very clear that there'll be a single central display only that will also display the speed/directions/etc. Tesla's don't have analogue displays.
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Almost every vehicle, even budget sub-compacts, have driver displays now. The utilization of that display varies from nigh useless (odometer, oil minders, etc.) to very useful (navigational directions, at-a-glance music selection via steering wheel based controls, etc.). Removing this display from the Model 3 seems like a design choice intended to artificially distinguish and demote the Model 3 from the Model S.
It's a design choice toward a self-driving world, where instantaneous road notifications are less important to a person in a car than they are today.
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Hunh, so I'm assuming then that the prius must have some changes there, or it's just not sold... As I knew someone that owned a 2012 prius that has literally nothing behind the driver's wheel (along with my wife's old saturn, but I'm almost positive that wasn't sold in europe). Actually now that i'm thinking about it, it seems about 30% of the cars in my life have had the main dash cluster in the center of the car!
> Hunh, so I'm assuming then that the prius must have some changes there The Prius has an above-the-wheel driver display (source: I drive one, and have been in every generation of Prius sold in the US, and my wife drives a Prius C) in addition to the center console touchscreen. It's higher, and nearer the centerline, than the old behind the wheel displays, but that is to allow your eyes to not come as far from the ro…
But again, either way I'm confident that Tesla is going to be within regulation. They are already getting so much scrutiny/bikeshedding about the center display, I can't imagine them not following the required laws. With so much attention on it, it'd be silly to have it all get fucked up by not having the screen positioned a few inches differently.
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Not artificially, but to keep the cost of the car at target. Nobody makes a car cheaper by removing the wheels, you have to nickel and dime where you can. A single display saves money. Lest we not forget, Tesla is likely to lose money on the base Model 3.
At $35K, Tesla is entering the world of the C class, the 3 class, and competing with that by 'nickel and diming' doesn't seem the wisest idea when you look beyond the "electric" aspect. Hell, even the S has been criticized for it's shoddy interior construction quality that more resembles a Ford Escape than a $100K Audi.
If you're one of the people who put down the $1K refundable deposit, how do you feel about this page? I understand they're trying to push Model S sales, but don't do it at the expense of customers willing to wait years and put a hefty deposit down. This strikes me as a rare misplay by Tesla. The Model 3 comes with a glass roof standard so it's conveniently left out of the premium options section -- that's pretty misl…
My main concerns about the Model 3 are that 1) I don't like the privacy and security implications of an always-on Internet connection, 2) it is yet to be seen how open Tesla is about service/maintenance documentation for the Model 3, and 3) I have some doubts about whether I'll like looking over to the right to see the instruments.
Tesla's model 3 versus model S page doesn't give me any insight into any of those concerns.
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I think this is in reaction to the confusion over Model 3 being the "next version" of the Model S. People might be holding off on buying the S because they think that the 3 is better. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/845278449811939328 . When asked why he named it Model 3 in that thread, his response was: "Because I was a dumb idiot and didn't realize at the time that it would cause confusion". This mistake seems…
>>People might be holding off on buying the S because they think that the 3 is better. But model 3 is $35k vs Model S @ $80k-$120k. These feel like two very, very different markets.
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Full price is on the model 3 page at https://www.tesla.com/model3 $35,000
Starting at $35,000. Nobody has any idea what power windows and an air conditioner are going to cost. This is an important distinction.
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This is almost disgustingly obvious. There are no prices listed on the page, and as far as I can tell they are comparing a base Model 3 to the highest-spec Model S. It screams "oh yeah we've got that Model 3 thing, but you can't buy it for 14 months. look at this really cool Model S!"
I think the whole point of it is to say "The Model 3 is NOT the next-gen Model S." The problem with the naming scheme (that Elon admitted was dumb) is that people assume it's the next version. In reality the Model S is a BMW, while the Model 3 is a Ford. They aren't even the same class of car.
Tesla has no comparison in the auto industry. The Model S is a $35k upcharge, minimum, over comparable traditional automobiles, just for the electric powertrain. The Model 3 might get that number down to $15k. Nothing we've seen about the Model 3 looks like it should start at $35k, beside the hype around electric powertrain.
My question is: Who can get that number down to $5k first? Tesla? Or BMW, Toyota, or GM?
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Starting at $35,000. Nobody has any idea what power windows and an air conditioner are going to cost. This is an important distinction.
Power windows and air conditioning are standard in practically every car now, right? I just got a 2017 Honda Civic EX (lowest end) which is ~$20000 and it how power windows and AC
The point of trim is bundling useless overpriced crap you don't want to pay for with stuff that you do want to pay for. This is a huge money-maker for auto manufacturers, and I would be shocked if TESLA takes a pro-customer position on it.
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I think the whole point of it is to say "The Model 3 is NOT the next-gen Model S." The problem with the naming scheme (that Elon admitted was dumb) is that people assume it's the next version. In reality the Model S is a BMW, while the Model 3 is a Ford. They aren't even the same class of car.
Doesn't the 3 allude to that it should compete with the BMW 3 series?
