Can 5 adults and 2 kids really fit in Model S?
With 2 in the trunk, rear facing.
too bad they are taking this out for Model 3.
Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison
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Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison
#122I couldn't stop feeling like this page is nothing else but a promotion for "Model S" which is "superior and now" rather than the other car which is "inferior and 1 year later". Price would've been the biggest (and only) reason for "Model 3" but it's not shown on the page. Added extra details for "Model 3" is a nice trick to boost virality of the promotion aimed at its target audience -- potential Model 3 buyers. Well…
This is almost disgustingly obvious. There are no prices listed on the page, and as far as I can tell they are comparing a base Model 3 to the highest-spec Model S. It screams "oh yeah we've got that Model 3 thing, but you can't buy it for 14 months. look at this really cool Model S!"
I think the whole point of it is to say "The Model 3 is NOT the next-gen Model S." The problem with the naming scheme (that Elon admitted was dumb) is that people assume it's the next version. In reality the Model S is a BMW, while the Model 3 is a Ford. They aren't even the same class of car.
Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
No driver display in model 3? This will be a big disappointment for many people.
Almost every vehicle, even budget sub-compacts, have driver displays now. The utilization of that display varies from nigh useless (odometer, oil minders, etc.) to very useful (navigational directions, at-a-glance music selection via steering wheel based controls, etc.). Removing this display from the Model 3 seems like a design choice intended to artificially distinguish and demote the Model 3 from the Model S.
Not artificially, but to keep the cost of the car at target. Nobody makes a car cheaper by removing the wheels, you have to nickel and dime where you can. A single display saves money.
Lest we not forget, Tesla is likely to lose money on the base Model 3.
Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is almost disgustingly obvious. There are no prices listed on the page, and as far as I can tell they are comparing a base Model 3 to the highest-spec Model S. It screams "oh yeah we've got that Model 3 thing, but you can't buy it for 14 months. look at this really cool Model S!"
I think the whole point of it is to say "The Model 3 is NOT the next-gen Model S." The problem with the naming scheme (that Elon admitted was dumb) is that people assume it's the next version. In reality the Model S is a BMW, while the Model 3 is a Ford. They aren't even the same class of car.
Doesn't the 3 allude to that it should compete with the BMW 3 series?
Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison
#125I couldn't stop feeling like this page is nothing else but a promotion for "Model S" which is "superior and now" rather than the other car which is "inferior and 1 year later". Price would've been the biggest (and only) reason for "Model 3" but it's not shown on the page. Added extra details for "Model 3" is a nice trick to boost virality of the promotion aimed at its target audience -- potential Model 3 buyers. Well…
They seem to have broke all of Edward Tufte's rules about scaling graphics to match data. The stopwatches, the max range ruler, the screen sizes.
At least the first two intentionally mislead. The should have made the last one more damaging too!
Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this is in reaction to the confusion over Model 3 being the "next version" of the Model S. People might be holding off on buying the S because they think that the 3 is better. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/845278449811939328 . When asked why he named it Model 3 in that thread, his response was: "Because I was a dumb idiot and didn't realize at the time that it would cause confusion". This mistake seems…
It is should have been Model E, like it was originally intended. But I heard that some people didn't like the idea of S/E/X...
So now we have S3X, which is much more 'elite' for the tech crowd ;)
Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison
#127Is it normal for a car company to make a luxury model and an economic model that looks so similar? I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons they feel the need to put up this comparison: they're not differentiating much on external looks, so they have to make it really clear that they're differentiating on features.
I'm not sure how normal it is. BMW does it, Mercedes does it to an extent, Audi does it, etc... American and Japanese brands seem to do something similar by using different brands, i.e. Nissan and Infiniti.
Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison
#128Is it normal for a car company to make a luxury model and an economic model that looks so similar? I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons they feel the need to put up this comparison: they're not differentiating much on external looks, so they have to make it really clear that they're differentiating on features.
Virtually all near-luxury to luxury manufacturers do exactly this.
For these two Tesla models in particular, the headlights and trunk line are key differences between the 3 and S, and are clearly identified by enthusiasts. But the majority of the design is part of the brand's consistent motif, making them look very similar to laypeople.
To laypeople, the BMW 3 looks nearly identical to the 5; the A3 looks nearly identical to the A6; the C-class looks nearly identical to the E-class; the ATS looks nearly identical to the CTS; the XE looks nearly identical to the XF; and so on.
Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison
#129I couldn't stop feeling like this page is nothing else but a promotion for "Model S" which is "superior and now" rather than the other car which is "inferior and 1 year later". Price would've been the biggest (and only) reason for "Model 3" but it's not shown on the page. Added extra details for "Model 3" is a nice trick to boost virality of the promotion aimed at its target audience -- potential Model 3 buyers. Well…
That's exactly what it is. They have more than enough reservations for the Model 3 at this point, and have no reason to try for more until they work through most of the backlog. For someone looking at a Tesla, they would much rather get $70,000+ from them now than $35,000+ from them in a year or two. Add to this the fact that a lot of people have apparently managed to interpret Model 3 as an upgrade to Model S and you get a page like this.
Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison
#130I couldn't stop feeling like this page is nothing else but a promotion for "Model S" which is "superior and now" rather than the other car which is "inferior and 1 year later". Price would've been the biggest (and only) reason for "Model 3" but it's not shown on the page. Added extra details for "Model 3" is a nice trick to boost virality of the promotion aimed at its target audience -- potential Model 3 buyers. Well…
>> I couldn't stop feeling like this page is nothing else but a promotion for "Model S" which is "superior and now"
Yep, the first thing I noticed was the pictures with the number of inches being compared.