Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

Post by sailingparrot » Fri, Feb 24, 2017, 2:03 PM UTC

lngnmn wrote: post #203

otalp wrote: post #174

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What are your sources that try to prove that socioeconomic factors are not 'the major ones', to the extent that that you can confidently state that it is 'plainly' wrong to attribute differences to poverty and lack of education?

It is obvious - poor but educated people are different from poor and uneducated. To lift people out of misery and poverty is what education is for in the first place. In countries like India that could be clearly seen. Poverty alone does not account for the behavioral patterns. Education is the key. People knew this since antiquity, independently of a particular civilization - Indians knew this, Chinese knew this, yo…

Post by barking » Fri, Feb 24, 2017, 2:03 PM UTC

collyw wrote: post #183

barking wrote: post #17

It's a bit simplistic to speak only about migrants. In the case of Islamic terrorism, I've heard it commented that recruits come from the children of migrants rather than the migrants themselves. This certainly seemed to borne out by the London 7/7 bombers and the Charlie Hebdo attackers to name two cases. Prison populations in western countries also seem to have disproportionate numbers of ethnic minorities. I also…

>In the case of Islamic terrorism, I've heard it commented that recruits come from the children of migrants rather than the migrants themselves. So do you think the problem is likely to be greater in 20 years time?

Post by acqq » Fri, Feb 24, 2017, 2:05 PM UTC

otalp wrote: post #151

leereeves wrote: post #50

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> In Germany, refugees are less likely to commit a crime than the average citizen Meanwhile in Sweden: > According to the most recent study, people from foreign backgrounds are 2.5 times more likely to be suspected of crimes than people born in Sweden to Swedish-born parents.

There's a difference between 'people from foreign backgrounds' and refugees. Even in Germany, I wouldn't be surprised if 'people from foreign backgrounds' commit crimes at a higher rate when you don't adjust for socio-economic conditions. However the majority of Syrian refugees - about 70%[1][2][3] are women and children. Again, something that is rarely mentioned in certain parts of the internet. [1]- http://www.poli…

Post by yAnonymous » Fri, Feb 24, 2017, 2:06 PM UTC

otalp wrote: post #151

leereeves wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In Germany, refugees are less likely to commit a crime than the average citizen Meanwhile in Sweden: > According to the most recent study, people from foreign backgrounds are 2.5 times more likely to be suspected of crimes than people born in Sweden to Swedish-born parents.

There's a difference between 'people from foreign backgrounds' and refugees. Even in Germany, I wouldn't be surprised if 'people from foreign backgrounds' commit crimes at a higher rate when you don't adjust for socio-economic conditions. However the majority of Syrian refugees - about 70%[1][2][3] are women and children. Again, something that is rarely mentioned in certain parts of the internet. [1]- http://www.poli…

Post by sailingparrot » Fri, Feb 24, 2017, 2:07 PM UTC

nmeofthestate wrote: post #201

brown9-2 wrote: post #148

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It is relevant to the topic of how to prevent crime - it tells you that eliminating immigration won't help, but that addressing poverty will.

Well, except some immigration adds to the number of people in poverty, so avoiding immigration that does that would address poverty and by extension crime. This is reasonable, unless the theory is that when an immigrant arrives in Sweden, a person already in poverty gets 'promoted' and the immigrant takes their poverty space, thus keeping poverty levels constant.