Facebook Ordered to Stop Collecting Data on WhatsApp Users in Germany

Post by ryandrake » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 9:23 PM UTC

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I don't know what app-of-the-week my friends use to chat with each other, but they return my E-mails and answer my phone calls. If one's friends won't communicate with them unless they're using a particular brand of messaging app, are they really friends?

Yes, they're really friends. If my friends all use whatsapp to organize parties, and I refuse to use it and force them to email me as a special one-off, am I really a friend? Because I know they'd love to have a back-and-forth conversation about timing/place/duties related to the party, then have to constantly send one-off emails to get my feedback. Let me guess - in your world they're all assholes for not constantly…

Post by oldmanjay » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 9:23 PM UTC

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I'm not arguing, just stating simple facts. I have quit many of these things and went back to phones for communication, which still works perfectly well. Do I miss out on things? Maybe. It doesn't harm me in the least. I certainly made no proclamation as to how anyone should live, which you seem to have mistakenly inferred. I suspect that level of unprovoked defensiveness to have an interesting underlying cause.

Your error is confusing "I can" with "people can".

Post by pbarnes_1 » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 9:34 PM UTC

achou wrote: post #251

A former colleague of mine who was a distinguished academic and successful tech executive grew up in East Germany. After the Berlin wall fell, he was able to enter the building where they kept the dossiers. He found his own file and was astounded by the information they had on him. His friends, his work, his habits. Photos of himself going about his business. His social circles. His friends were equally shocked by th…

Post by AlexandrB » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 9:47 PM UTC

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While Germany is protecting their citizens from facebook's shady privacy policies, The US leaders argue about who has more stamina. I'm very happy paying 1$ a year for privacy and security. Whatsapp just re-iterated that they will say anything to fool its users and break their promise. Facebook should definitely get a fine in billions and should be made to apologize publicly for breaching privacy.

If you're paying $1 a year you don't have privacy: you just gave your banking details to the provider. Why do you think this is better than optional linking to a Facebook profile that may or may not even use your real name, and almost certainly does not have your street address on it?

Post by networth » Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 10:43 PM UTC

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That's interesting, but from the copy on the page it seems to target micropayments for reading content published on websites. Which is an important and hard problem. On the other hand, paying a dollar a month to use a service like email doesn't pose a technological problem. But since most services, unlike email, are walled gardens, I can't pay a provider to give me access to e.g. WhatsApp or Facebook without serving…