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Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Post by hueving »

MicroBerto wrote: post #63
Mtinie wrote: post #56

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I never really had an opinion about Chelsea Clinton, one way or another, but after reading that email I respect her.

It was incredibly well-written. Much respect to her. You can tell that she is the kind of person that demands action and hates any kind of BS. Very business like. This is also why you should always write emails assuming they're public record. Because one day... They just might be!

It was quite 'over-written', if that's even a term. The sentences were very dense with long compound sentences. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I feel like it's a failure on her part to drown the reader in text with a low readability score that isn't even jargon.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Post by ethbro »

caseysoftware wrote: post #83
ethbro wrote: post #41

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Side note: I've read a few articles in which previous State employees have characterized State Department IT infrastructure as... less than functional. Given that this is the federal government, an older and large department, and pre-USDS/18F, I consider that at least a somewhat plausible scenario. Would be curious if anyone closer could lend a technical opinion on whether those claims have merit or are spin. (Given…

Less than functional or not, it is the duty of people with access to classified information to protect it. You sign tons of paperwork to that effect. Honest mistakes happen all the time. If you're lucky, your hand is slapped and people move along. But it is possible to have your clearance revoked - like Sandy Berger - or even serve prison time for purposeful malfeasance or disregard for the rules. And this isn't a ne…

Which works when you're the President and can have a custom device made. But what about when you're Secretary of State? Or even, god forbid, some poor functionary down at the bottom end of State? Or the Department of Indian Affairs?

I absolutely agree that protecting classified information by whatever rules are in place is of primary importance.

However, we've all seen dysfunctional organizations. So I'm also sympathetic to someone trying to get work done and ignoring soft guidelines in favor of an institutionally accepted interpretation that's conducive to accomplishing the job. And unsympathetic to telling someone at the time "we really should do that, but everyone does this" and than raking them over the coals from a future armchair that we were shocked (!) that they didn't following all guidelines.

Show me a successful, highly-productive individual's records and I'll show you somewhere they forgot to cross a t.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Post by eli »

leroy_masochist wrote: post #93
southerngs wrote: post #33

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Not a four star though: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/petra...

I think it's safe to say that if Petraeus had done what Hillary apparently did, he would be incarcerated. If conversations in social settings with former colleagues in the IC / DoD are indicative of sentiment throughout these communities, there will be a tremendous amount of discontent if she is not prosecuted for her decision to conduct official communications as one of the most senior members of the USG over an uns…

Strongly disagree. Petraeus was far worse; he intentionally and knowingly gave classified information to someone not authorized to see it. He pled guilty.

It's unclear (IMHO unlikely) that Hillary did anything illegal. She has not been charged with a crime. She has not, so far as we know, been investigated for any crime. And there's no evidence any classified information was leaked, intentionally or not.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Post by rsync »

I can't shake the feeling that this was all part of the plan.

We all learn of the true value and humanity of The Hillary by reading her true, uncensored, selfless self. Now we know who She Really Is(TM).

Plans within plans within plans ...

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Post by hueving »

gameshot911 wrote: post #79
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #68

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Unwarranted or unjustifiable.

By that I meant not "what is the definition of undue", but rather, why is the "offspring of powerful people having [extra] influence" undue? By what metric do you define the level of influence that is appropriate to any one person? And separately, how are we to determine whether the child of a powerful person doesn't have just the right amount of influence per that metric, and it's just a coincidence that their paren…

Any influence granted through parental connections rather than one forged on your own are undue.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Post by leroy_masochist »

eli wrote: post #103
leroy_masochist wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's safe to say that if Petraeus had done what Hillary apparently did, he would be incarcerated. If conversations in social settings with former colleagues in the IC / DoD are indicative of sentiment throughout these communities, there will be a tremendous amount of discontent if she is not prosecuted for her decision to conduct official communications as one of the most senior members of the USG over an uns…

Strongly disagree. Petraeus was far worse; he intentionally and knowingly gave classified information to someone not authorized to see it. He pled guilty. It's unclear (IMHO unlikely) that Hillary did anything illegal. She has not been charged with a crime. She has not, so far as we know, been investigated for any crime. And there's no evidence any classified information was leaked, intentionally or not.

Broadwell had a TS clearance and was a reserve military intelligence officer, so....no.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Post by oofabz »

I tried searching for middle-east-related keywords, and got tons of hits. Then I tried searching for Central American and South American topics, and got very little.

It's a shame that the Mexican drug cartels, the murders in Central America, and the economic rise of Brazil/Argentina are not given more priority by our government. These are both the greatest threats to and the largest opportunities for the US.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Post by quantail »

rsync wrote: post #104

I can't shake the feeling that this was all part of the plan. We all learn of the true value and humanity of The Hillary by reading her true, uncensored, selfless self. Now we know who She Really Is(TM). Plans within plans within plans ...

The content seems very banal and will only serve to humanize her in the coming primaries. Super Tuesday is March 1st.

The timing is uncanny.

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