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Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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What striking to me, however certainly expected, is all the sycophantic drivel heaped onto a powerful person. "You looked fabulous", "we were discussing how incredible you are". Perhaps aides think somehow they are being supportive, but if I were that powerful person, I believe I would rather just a few people I trust to tell me when I'm effing up - than everyone telling me how fantastic I am.

> Perhaps aides think somehow they are being supportive, but if I were that powerful person, I believe I would rather just a few people I trust to tell me when I'm effing up - than everyone telling me how fantastic I am.

And if you were powerful, and wanted to, you would likely be able to find ways to surround yourself with such people. But I think often enough, the people who want power don't want it because they're very well-centered, and I think it's fair to assume that politicians and other people mostly select the nature (which can mean what those really think and/or what they claim they think) of their "underlings" by the signals they send, the incentives they give, by whom they hire or fire. In other words, the dog is probably wagging the tail, not the other way around.

I could be wrong, I don't know this woman and don't follow US politics that closely, but just from random things like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI I would call it a somewhat educated guess. Some people don't want to know the truth about themselves, that's the exact opposite of their mission in life. By which I don't mean to bash Clinton in particular, the list of big time politicians I wouldn't suspect this about would be very short and hard to come up with.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Chelsea's email to B & H about her experience in Haiti is an informative read. I had assumed our disaster mitigation/rescue NGOs were a lot more effective than they actually are. They sound pretty awful, reading that email.

The other interesting piece of information is the incredible amount of access Chelsea gets given her experience level. Obviously, her connections have helped her. In her defense though, she seems to be living up to it.

You mean the offspring of powerful people has undue influence? Call the press.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Can someone explain why this is happening for us non-Americans (or possibly just me if I missed some major news event)?

Hillary, illegally, maintained a private email server for official correspondence and transmitted classified materials over it. The email server was hacked and the contents stolen and later published. She is currently under investigation by the FBI for this.

There's no evidence that the email server was ever hacked. The contents were not stolen and later published. They were released to the FBI by Clinton (after she deleted some "personal" emails), and now released to the public under a FOIA request.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Yeah. Someone I know who briefly worked at the UN had some interesting stories about incompetence and politics where factional lines were drawn by nationality.

I got sat next to a CIDA worker at a wedding. She talked about her duties ensuring that a Canadian agency head was provided with adequate and hygienic toilets in Haiti. Reports included trips to various places and pictures of each possible crapper along the way. Tax dollars at work... Can you imagine being the lead team on that? The existential ennui alone about the pointlessness of it all. edit:forgot to mention tha…

The late Michael Hastings' The Operators was a good read if you find the sausage making process interesting.

He has a strong viewpoint, but stories of Gen McChrystal throwing out ISAF functionaries from plush offices and closing officer bars at the Kabul ISAF headquarters were fairly humorous.

There were overriding politics between superiors, but the irony is that McChrystal, any infeasible strategy aside, got thrown out for showing distain for the same wasteful, corrupt system that everyone else gripes about.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Chelsea's email to B & H about her experience in Haiti is an informative read. I had assumed our disaster mitigation/rescue NGOs were a lot more effective than they actually are. They sound pretty awful, reading that email.

Such a terrible mess.

All is logistics, and no one except armies recognize that.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Chelsea's email to B & H about her experience in Haiti is an informative read. I had assumed our disaster mitigation/rescue NGOs were a lot more effective than they actually are. They sound pretty awful, reading that email.

I never really had an opinion about Chelsea Clinton, one way or another, but after reading that email I respect her.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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What striking to me, however certainly expected, is all the sycophantic drivel heaped onto a powerful person. "You looked fabulous", "we were discussing how incredible you are". Perhaps aides think somehow they are being supportive, but if I were that powerful person, I believe I would rather just a few people I trust to tell me when I'm effing up - than everyone telling me how fantastic I am.

There's a strong gendered component to this, one which men used to working for male bosses may be unfamiliar with: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/11/hilla...

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Hillary Clinton served as Secretary of State, she used a private email server that was stored at her home and later in hosting facility not cleared for classified information (supposedly in a bathroom). Initially, she claimed there was no classified information on the server at any time. Further, when she was required to turn over records to comply with archival rules, she had her staff delete the personal messa…

> In the current investigation, they've discovered classified emails - some classified after the fact, some not "some not"? If you are implying that Clinton's server held messages marked as classified when sent, could you provide some evidence to this effect? The Clinton campaign is quite adamant that this is not true.

This is a red herring. It doesn't matter if it was marked or not. It is up to the sender to take the precaution. That there are now thousands of emails marked after the fact as classified, wouldn't that tell you the assumption should have been made to err on the side of caution, and assume most everything you are discussing has high probability to be classified information?

And using your own insecure personal server for these emails essentially guarantees that it's been hacked by.. China, Russia, take your pick.

In fact there is a term called "born-classified" which applies to information about foreign governments provided by foreign sources. Here's some evidence:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-email...

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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Chelsea's email to B & H about her experience in Haiti is an informative read. I had assumed our disaster mitigation/rescue NGOs were a lot more effective than they actually are. They sound pretty awful, reading that email.

Yeah, NPR/Propublica published a massive exposé about this a while back: https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-red-cross-raised-...

They used $500,000,000 to build six houses. No, that's not a typo.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

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They redacted Sidney Blumenthal's email domain, but they did not redact the email headers from this email:

http://graphics.wsj.com/hillary-clinton-email-documents/pdfs...

Looks like he had an @aol.com address, which matches up with the length of the redacted bit and you can even see the top of the 'l' in some cases.

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