Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

graphics.wsj.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

61–70 of 156 posts

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

#61

Post by greggman »

orbitingpluto wrote: post #42
argonaut wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. Someone I know who briefly worked at the UN had some interesting stories about incompetence and politics where factional lines were drawn by nationality.

I got sat next to a CIDA worker at a wedding. She talked about her duties ensuring that a Canadian agency head was provided with adequate and hygienic toilets in Haiti. Reports included trips to various places and pictures of each possible crapper along the way. Tax dollars at work... Can you imagine being the lead team on that? The existential ennui alone about the pointlessness of it all. edit:forgot to mention tha…

I assume you think that's a bad thing? If I had someone planning where I was going to stay I would tell them, put me anywhere that has a quiet comfortable bed and a clean private comfortable toilet. Maybe there's more to this story?

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

#62

Post by plcancel »

SeanLuke wrote: post #29
caseysoftware wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Hillary Clinton served as Secretary of State, she used a private email server that was stored at her home and later in hosting facility not cleared for classified information (supposedly in a bathroom). Initially, she claimed there was no classified information on the server at any time. Further, when she was required to turn over records to comply with archival rules, she had her staff delete the personal messa…

> In the current investigation, they've discovered classified emails - some classified after the fact, some not "some not"? If you are implying that Clinton's server held messages marked as classified when sent, could you provide some evidence to this effect? The Clinton campaign is quite adamant that this is not true.

If what the campaign says is true, then it sounds to me like a technicality. It seems to me implausible that 22 emails containing intel of the most secret sort had that intel classified after the fact (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/20/hillary-clint...).

----------------

FROM: Important Official TO: Hillary Clinton

MESSAGE: Info you requested - JFK is still alive. He wants to meet you soon. Also, aliens. Lots of them.

----------------

In that ridiculous example, it seems like the Sec of State isn't thinking to herself, "I hope they don't classify this info later."

It's the official's responsibility to know what is and what isn't classified whether it is "marked". As a lawyer (and a Clinton!), she would certainly be parsing her words carefully.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

#63

Post by MicroBerto »

Mtinie wrote: post #56
awakeasleep wrote: post #5

Chelsea's email to B & H about her experience in Haiti is an informative read. I had assumed our disaster mitigation/rescue NGOs were a lot more effective than they actually are. They sound pretty awful, reading that email.

I never really had an opinion about Chelsea Clinton, one way or another, but after reading that email I respect her.

It was incredibly well-written. Much respect to her.

You can tell that she is the kind of person that demands action and hates any kind of BS. Very business like.

This is also why you should always write emails assuming they're public record. Because one day... They just might be!

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

#64

Post by orbitingpluto »

greggman wrote: post #61
orbitingpluto wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got sat next to a CIDA worker at a wedding. She talked about her duties ensuring that a Canadian agency head was provided with adequate and hygienic toilets in Haiti. Reports included trips to various places and pictures of each possible crapper along the way. Tax dollars at work... Can you imagine being the lead team on that? The existential ennui alone about the pointlessness of it all. edit:forgot to mention tha…

I assume you think that's a bad thing? If I had someone planning where I was going to stay I would tell them, put me anywhere that has a quiet comfortable bed and a clean private comfortable toilet. Maybe there's more to this story?

Careful, your privilege is showing.

edit: Seriously on the downvotes? If your job is to travel to another country to render aid because of conditions caused by your own country sending troops to facilitate a coup, and then you send your underlings to make sure you have golden toilets on your visit, then something is messed up. If you can't see that and you're downvoting me for it, congrats, you are the problem.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

#65

Post by hackuser »

ethbro wrote: post #54
orbitingpluto wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got sat next to a CIDA worker at a wedding. She talked about her duties ensuring that a Canadian agency head was provided with adequate and hygienic toilets in Haiti. Reports included trips to various places and pictures of each possible crapper along the way. Tax dollars at work... Can you imagine being the lead team on that? The existential ennui alone about the pointlessness of it all. edit:forgot to mention tha…

The late Michael Hastings' The Operators was a good read if you find the sausage making process interesting. He has a strong viewpoint, but stories of Gen McChrystal throwing out ISAF functionaries from plush offices and closing officer bars at the Kabul ISAF headquarters were fairly humorous. There were overriding politics between superiors, but the irony is that McChrystal, any infeasible strategy aside, got thrown…

> McChrystal ... got thrown out for showing distain for the same wasteful, corrupt system that everyone else gripes about.

OT: IIRC he resigned after he and his staff openly mocked to a journalist the President, VP and others in the chain of command, and their comments were published in Rolling Stone. That's not an effort to end corruption, it's insubordination, apparently widespread in his staff under his leadership, which itself is a form of corruption.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

#66

Post by sb057 »

greeneggs wrote: post #53
shaftoe wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hillary, illegally, maintained a private email server for official correspondence and transmitted classified materials over it. The email server was hacked and the contents stolen and later published. She is currently under investigation by the FBI for this.

There's no evidence that the email server was ever hacked. The contents were not stolen and later published. They were released to the FBI by Clinton (after she deleted some "personal" emails), and now released to the public under a FOIA request.

While there is no evidence that her email server was hacked, she did have correspondence with Sydney Blumenthal, who's account WAS hacked, and emails from that account were published.[1] This, combined with the fact that Clinton's server didn't boast the best security (allegedly), and it's not a stretch to imagine that her server was hacked.

[1] https://pando.com/2015/03/20/exclusive-interview-jailed-hack...

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

#67

Post by gameshot911 »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #52
jedberg wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other interesting piece of information is the incredible amount of access Chelsea gets given her experience level. Obviously, her connections have helped her. In her defense though, she seems to be living up to it.

You mean the offspring of powerful people has undue influence? Call the press.

'Undue' as defined how?

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

#69

Post by wavefunction »

mattzito wrote: post #46
caf wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, as another outside observer looking in, the use of the private email doesn't seem to be relevant to the document release itself, right? That's just the result of a FOI request, because public official's emails are subject to FOI, regardless of where they're stored. So what I wonder is, do we see this with every candidate? Is there a similar archive of Jeb Bush's emails from his time as Governor of Florida? Or do…

State laws vary, but jeb bush has been pretty transparent - iirc he actually released a book of his emails as governor.

It should be pointed out that the book contained only emails sent and received from his official account, but nothing barred him (or Hillary) from using additional email accounts.

Re: Search Hillary Clinton’s Emails

#70

Post by glitch003 »

I'm not sure how well the search actually works. I searched for "fart" in the "Search email text" field, and it returns 2 emails as results, but they don't contain the word "fart" as far as I can tell.

Can anyone else confirm this? And does anyone have any idea why this would happen? Some kind of partial text match?

One of the 2 results definitely doesn't contain the substring "fart" anywhere: "will be available in 10 minutes, per ops. They will connect you as soon as she calls in. "

Post reply on HN