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She’ll Text Me, She’ll Text Me Not

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Re: She’ll Text Me, She’ll Text Me Not

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This is not great advice because girls aren't as proactive and they have plenty of old and new guys to distract them.

I see it like those grammar errors in scam emails - making people self-select themselves for qualities you want. Even at crazy low success rate, it's still only a matter of time.

There are guys I meet that I think could become my best friend or a great future co-founder. But I never call or text them, because I get busy with work and life.

Re: She’ll Text Me, She’ll Text Me Not

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So TL;DR: Uncertain reply-time-window dynamics enabled by the era of asynchronous/deferred indirect communication (aka "texting"/"emailing") create a situation where the psychological principles of the Variable Ratio Reinforcement Schedule ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement ) kick in, which, as it turns out, is the most addicting, thus creating the most drama. I get that about right? ;) Word to the wise (s…

> Online dating apps put much more power into the hands of women than men. No, online dating puts more power into the hands of beautiful/photogenic people than in real life, that includes men.

Both are correct. It applies to men 10fold, however. Women are far more harsh critics when it comes to determining attractiveness of men [0]

Your average woman will still have a slew of options and general choice in their partner from online dating. Your average man simply does not.

's point still stands.

[0] Evidence, of course: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dati...

Re: She’ll Text Me, She’ll Text Me Not

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The reply link won't appear immediately for deeply nested comments. Initially a minute or two, eventually many minutes. The comments still appear as fast as you allow with your "delay" setting in your profile (2 minutes for me: time to edit, and time to delete the stupid messages that felt good to write but that I shouldn't have written).

Sometimes (always?) the reply link doesn't show up in the comment thread, but shows up when you visit the individual comment through its permalink. That's probably a bug though.

No, it's on purpose. PG added it years ago, presumably as a speed bump.

Re: She’ll Text Me, She’ll Text Me Not

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Text are asynchronous by nature. Expecting an immediate response is selfish. You expect the other person to carry their phone, check their phone constantly, and drop everything to respond to your (usually dumb) message? Maybe that works with family, but not understanding the nature of asynchronous messaging will hurt the sender a lot more than the receiver. Yes, people sometimes play games, but most of the time they probably have lives (some people still work and such during the day for example). The worst of the worst is when someone gets angry because you didn't respond when they wanted you to. Those people do not deserve anyone's friendship.

Re: She’ll Text Me, She’ll Text Me Not

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the first year, I did date a few people...

I'm coming up on 8 months since I last had any physical intimacy, and it's making it a lot harder to be okay with being single. I pretty much assume "as long as you're getting occasional physical intimacy" is implied whenever anyone says "you should learn to be okay with being single."

I wouldn't say that's implied. That's why it's so difficult.

EDIT: In fact, I'd say the opposite is implied.

Re: She’ll Text Me, She’ll Text Me Not

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> changing "score something 'out of your league'" to, e.g., "meet someone 'out of your league.'" I'm not sure why people see this as so hard to swallow. The use case for language is this: You have a picture or idea in your brain that needs to be transmitted over ASCII into my brain. The conventional symbol set for this use case are English words. A priori we received a dictionary of words and their meanings that we a…

That's an interesting explanation, and it's an astute way of describing tactics that are sometimes employed in political debates. But as applied to this case, I think it fails to address some key issues. 1. What reason would HG have to distract from the substantive content in the OP's comment? 2. HG was not the only person who found OP's comment objectionable. Do we all have ulterior motivess? 3. There are, I think,…

I don't suspect users here have conscious ulterior motives. I think that ____ (insert one of {media, communists, political elites, liberals, aliens, etc}) have conditioned knee-jerk language-policing. This has the side-effect of taking the current thread off topic while muting substantive discourse in this and future posts.

The dictionary attack has been practiced in media for a long time. Watch a famous 50s news anchor interview an atheist author (I can think of specifics, but I don't want to bias you). Back then it was obvious they were distorting what the interviewee was saying. The viewing audience wasn't stupid, they were complicit because they didn't agree with the atheist. Today this goes on, and occurs so regularly that no one cares if someone deliberately misunderstands something in order to be outraged. Actually whats even more telling is that this technique is a standard way to "communicate" political messages - just watch the campaigners.

I learned this dictionary problem while managing a startup with some employees who used a different dictionary than I. I'd say 80% of the conflict at work was due I say X while the other understood X'

Really if I had a way to efficiently and reliably transfer images in my head into theirs we would have saved countless hours and dollars

Re: She’ll Text Me, She’ll Text Me Not

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I strongly agree with this criticism of the language (I winced reading it), but I also agree that the way it was criticised here was unnecessarily inflammatory. There are many people who are not sympathetic to calls for PC language, and including accusations of "insane chauvinism" isn't going to make them any more palatable.

Fair enough. I agree that the comment could have been more carefully worded. Note, though, that this does not (I hope!) explain the cool reception (to put it mildly) to my own comments in the same vein.

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Re: She’ll Text Me, She’ll Text Me Not

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I strongly agree with this criticism of the language (I winced reading it), but I also agree that the way it was criticised here was unnecessarily inflammatory. There are many people who are not sympathetic to calls for PC language, and including accusations of "insane chauvinism" isn't going to make them any more palatable.

Fair enough. I agree that the comment could have been more carefully worded. Note, though, that this does not (I hope!) explain the cool reception (to put it mildly) to my own comments in the same vein.

The comment was, well, offensively chauvinist.

Re: She’ll Text Me, She’ll Text Me Not

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Trust me, this is not true. Initiating contact is not only acceptable, but quite often preferred. Generally this approach is just protecting your self-esteem.

No, it's a sign of respect. In these days of Tinder, girls are used to guys hitting on them all the time. By not contacting them, you are actually sending a message.

Speaking as a woman, the message I would get from this is, "I'm not that interested."

Re: She’ll Text Me, She’ll Text Me Not

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That's an interesting explanation, and it's an astute way of describing tactics that are sometimes employed in political debates. But as applied to this case, I think it fails to address some key issues. 1. What reason would HG have to distract from the substantive content in the OP's comment? 2. HG was not the only person who found OP's comment objectionable. Do we all have ulterior motivess? 3. There are, I think,…

I don't suspect users here have conscious ulterior motives. I think that ____ (insert one of { media, communists, political elites, liberals, aliens, etc}) have conditioned knee-jerk language-policing. This has the side-effect of taking the current thread off topic while muting substantive discourse in this and future posts. The dictionary attack has been practiced in media for a long time. Watch a famous 50s news an…

Wow. You've gone from accusing people of faking outrage, to accusing people of executing a CNN-style 'dictionary attack'(?), to suggesting an alien communist liberal conspiracy...

... and you think that OTHER people are taking the thread off-topic and muting substantive discourse?

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