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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by skc »

hunterloftis wrote: post #242
Tloewald wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The surface pro didn't do anything new at all. It was windows for tablets with decent industrial design (great design aside from the keyboards). It's not like Apple hadn't dicked around with keyboard covers et al since back in the Newton days. This isn't a question of who did hardware feature X first but who did user feature Y right. The jury is out but when I went to a Microsoft store ready to buy a maxed out surfac…

Yep I loved the idea of the surface; tried to use it to replace my mb air for but ended up returning it because the ecosystem was terrible and the keyboard was annoying.

Huh? It's full windows and yet the ecosystem was terrible?

Doesn't compute.

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Post by Artemis2 »

bsimpson wrote: post #292
drinchev wrote: post #243

I wouldn't imagine a device like that to literally goes out without any decent content creation thought in mind. I'm sick of using my medium (now) screen iPad as a comment maker. I want to use it for development. I want my iPad to run WebStorm , SublimeText, GitHub. I want a jailbreak iOS that is capable of running a desktop Apps on that new desktop-performance iPad. This should've been the big news about the new big…

Curious to see how long until Atom is ported to iOS. It's all just HTML and a JS engine, right? If Facebook can build React Native, someone can build Atom for the iPad Pro.

> It's all just HTML and a JS engine

Yeah, about that... It's actually a [pretty huge piece of software](https://github.com/atom/electron). That's not saying that porting it is impossible, it's that if it was easy, an ARM Android version would already exist.

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Post by sremani »

Tloewald wrote: post #215
jff wrote: post #47

Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large

The surface pro didn't do anything new at all. It was windows for tablets with decent industrial design (great design aside from the keyboards). It's not like Apple hadn't dicked around with keyboard covers et al since back in the Newton days. This isn't a question of who did hardware feature X first but who did user feature Y right. The jury is out but when I went to a Microsoft store ready to buy a maxed out surfac…

The ground work for Surface Pro was Windows 8, so yes, Microsoft did hybrid OS, and Surface Pro was their "Hero" device. The touch/type cover was innovative but annoying. Surface Pro (with Windows 8+) like it or not is a ground-breaking device.

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Post by evook »

Tloewald wrote: post #218
chinathrow wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They sure copy, but so did others too all the time. Apples move with the pencil is more targeted at businesses, hospitals and such. Win the users at home first, convert them easily at work later, at a higher price with a better margin.

Looks like their target is creatives to me. At least based on the video. But I'm itching to use one for both sketches and meeting notes.

With 10 bit colour support?

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Post by CamperBob2 »

WorldWideWayne wrote: post #259
hashberry wrote: post #207

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And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

Speak for yourself - the Surface Pro line is sexy as hell and the fact that it's not a walled garden is a huge plus.

Walled garden, Panopticon, what's the difference.

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Post by Karunamon »

gorena wrote: post #11

"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

This quote is making the rounds on Twitter right now. The non-snarky response to which is "that's an ancient quote", the more snarky one is "It's been 7 years. The market changes. Deal with it."

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Post by username3 »

roymurdock wrote: post #144

The iPad Pro is going to be available in November — 32GB for $799, 64GB for $949 and 128GB for $1,079. The $1,079 comes with Wi-Fi and cellular. The keyboard is going to cost $169 and the stylus is going to cost $99 — magic isn’t cheap. Can someone explain this absurd pricing strategy to me?

There is no 64GB. It's 128GB without cellular for $949. They have high price points for latest models. Retailers discount.

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Post by adamnemecek »

tdicola wrote: post #79
bcoates wrote: post #46

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It's literally not a general purpose computer, you can't compile and execute code on it. DOS at least came with an assembler-debugger and a linker.

You can use XCode on any Mac and compile and upload apps to your iPad just fine. No need for a $99 developer account anymore too. There are plenty of programming apps in the app store too if you just want like a Python, Javascript, etc. shell to mess around in too.

but you can't compile code on the device itself which is kind of a big deal

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Post by nsxwolf »

rsync wrote: post #298
noahbradley wrote: post #230

Speaking as an artist who uses the Surface Pro 3 for all of my work, an iPad Pro will be useless without the right software. And as great as Procreate might be, it's not Photoshop and will never be Photoshop. Without the ability to run full desktop apps, this would never be much more than a toy for me.

I sympathize with this, although playing devils advocate ... if adobe has web-based photoshop (which I think they do ?) then does it matter ?

My suspicion is the Pencil will not work with it, or if it does, will not have acceptable latency.

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Post by rodgerd »

SyneRyder wrote: post #61
Xcelerate wrote: post #42

I don't understand the allure of a "pro" iPad. Wouldn't you just want a laptop then? The keyboard is (at least for me) the fastest accurate text input device ever invented. It's the main reason I type everything instead of write it by hand.

Most of the input they've been showing is drawing and using the stylus. It might not be ideal for programming or writing, but this is going to be ideal for artists, photographers and anyone who wanted a 13" Cintiq.

Those people have a Surface and run Photoshop, Illustrator, Manga Pro, and other software not available for iOS.
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