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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

For navigating and general use on a 3.5" screen, he was dead on. For drawing on a screen of any size, especially a 12" one, the stylus makes plenty of sense.

Oh please, a stylus worked better on my old 3.5 inch PDA than any stupid touch gestures do for my 4.7 inch Android phone. Arrows on the keyboard? What the fuck are arrows?

Marketing just pushed styli (?) and hardware keyboards out, the latter is something I really miss on my phone...

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Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large

The surface pro didn't do anything new at all. It was windows for tablets with decent industrial design (great design aside from the keyboards). It's not like Apple hadn't dicked around with keyboard covers et al since back in the Newton days. This isn't a question of who did hardware feature X first but who did user feature Y right. The jury is out but when I went to a Microsoft store ready to buy a maxed out surfac…

Yep I loved the idea of the surface; tried to use it to replace my mb air for but ended up returning it because the ecosystem was terrible and the keyboard was annoying.

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I wouldn't imagine a device like that to literally goes out without any decent content creation thought in mind. I'm sick of using my medium (now) screen iPad as a comment maker. I want to use it for development. I want my iPad to run WebStorm , SublimeText, GitHub.

I want a jailbreak iOS that is capable of running a desktop Apps on that new desktop-performance iPad.

This should've been the big news about the new big-size iPad.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wacom force sensors are also in the pencil, but they get their power through induction or something from the tablet.

And everyone else uses batteries because of Wacom patents. At least that was the case 5 years ago.

Oh, is that why? I thought current multi-touch technology interfered with the Wacom-style force sensor, but I could have imagined that.

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Looks like the Surface Pro with type cover and Stylus. As long as the mobile OS and locked down ecosystem limits it, many will be better off buying the Surface. Although the stylus too seems to be inferior - it has batteries. Both the Surface and Note ones don't - probably because Wacom? If that's the case this is classic NIH case - putting out inferior product just because they couldn't call it Apple Pencil.

"No, no, the Surface Pro looks like our iPad Pro. Just ignore the specs" - Apple fans and iPad owners :-D

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They are saying all this and not saying how much Ram it has.

Seems like its only 2 gig. They touted the ability to edit video on this in relation to its CPU/GPU prowess but fail to mention the all important ram. This isn't editing anything but a 1 minutes HD video with 2 gigs of ram.

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https://i.imgur.com/sV4SZyD.png What is going on with Apple's line-up? This is unnecessarily confusing.

Yeah for a long time it was higher the version number the better and the rest was old, sold at refurbished. Now they have new with lower version numbers selling along side the other ones? There goes that simplicity. Maybe in the end this is better for the bottom line but it's just uncharacteristic.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While the Pro 3 was slightly more expensive, if you include the keyboard cover and pen, I'd argue this is much more expensive (included pen & $120 for the cover/keyboard, Vs. $99 + $170). And the Pro 3's pen/drawing experience has received pretty good reviews after some early software jitters.

To be fair you'd have to include the Pro 3's keyboard cover in that too - $120. Also the Surface stylus isn't in the same league. So you'd have to compare to something like the N-Trig stylus which is an extra $50. Cheaper? Yes, though I'd say the Apple ones are better quality (especially looking at the keyboard cover).

> Also the Surface stylus isn't in the same league. So you'd have to compare to something like the N-Trig stylus which is an extra $50.

The Surface Pro 3's pen is an N-Trig... Yeah, so not $50 more, included right in the box. And it has reviewed excellently by artists.

> Yes, though I'd say the Apple ones are better quality (especially looking at the keyboard cover).

You have absolutely no basis for claiming that the Apple pen and cover are superior. Literally nobody has reviewed them, you haven't used them, nobody you know has used them, and you didn't even know they existed two hours ago.

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

On a 3.5 inch screen? Yeah, the stylus was terrible for that. Touch screen interfaces were held back for years because everyone blindly used a stylus as the primary input device.

This is for a much larger screen, and it is an accessory and not the primary input device.

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