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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

I agree, so much useless stuff here. Long gone are the days when Apple produced powerful and exciting new Macs. Now they are catching up and behind... I think my next computer will be a PC again.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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What about Pencil from 53? http://www.fiftythree.com/pencil Edit: To clarify, seems like they shouldn't (maybe couldn't, but I don't see a TM on the 53 site) call it Pencil since there is already a device made specifically for iPad called Pencil.

Per the USPTO trademark database (on mobile so can't readily link), FiftyThree has a trademark on "Pencil by FiftyThree", not on "Pencil". Moreover the trademark they do have specifically disclaims exclusive rights to the word "pencil" by itself. (IANAL but typically USPTO will ask for these sorts of disclaimers if part of the trademark is deemed generic/descriptive.)

Similarly Apple's product is officially named "Apple Pencil".

So Apple is probably in the clear.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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It's literally not a general purpose computer, you can't compile and execute code on it. DOS at least came with an assembler-debugger and a linker.

This is flatly false. There are numerous programming environments available on iOS, and it has the JavaScript environment with the most advanced available JIT built in.

Wrong. https://www.bignerdranch.com/blog/javascriptcore-example/ JavaScriptCore is what Apple uses for built in JS evaluation, and V8 can't be implemented due to lack of execution of code from user-writable memory. JSC most definitely does not have the "most advanced available JIT."

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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This is Apple definitely responding to high-end pressure from increasingly successful Surfaces in the same way the iPad mini was a response to pressure from the low-end by small Android tablets. This is basically Apple saying "let's make a Surface with a bigger screen and do it the Apple way". It's weird seeing Microsoft participate in it. Other than size, there's not much that Android tablets need to respond to, the…

> but it fires shots across the bow of also increasingly popular Chromebooks which are around this price point. The price point is more like (a little under) the at-release Surface Pro than popular Chromebooks (its a little cheaper than the Chromebook Pixel, but that's not really the big seller -- the popular models are at the low end.) Both by form factor and price, this seems more to be competing more with the big…

While the Pro 3 was slightly more expensive, if you include the keyboard cover and pen, I'd argue this is much more expensive (included pen & $120 for the cover/keyboard, Vs. $99 + $170).

And the Pro 3's pen/drawing experience has received pretty good reviews after some early software jitters.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#196

The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

Yep, I'm in the same boat. Apple devices and laptops, but we've moved on from iTunes to Amazon. Spent thousands in iTunes, still have a small home server running it for us to access it, but every new movie, tv show, or song is now purchased on Amazon. They're available everywhere on basically every device.

We've got Rokus on the small TVs and Xbox Ones on the big ones.

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And it's not a Wacom-like active digitizer, you need to actually charge this thing. I feel the stylus that came with Windows XP tablet edition in 2002 was probably better than this.

My surface also uses a battery in the stylus.

Two in fact. One for the pen and one for the button. At least on the SP3.

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"if you see a stylus, they blew it." - Steve Jobs, after the 2010 iPad introduction.

I just can't figure out why Jobs, and apparently lots of other people, are against adding an extra, more accurate method of interacting with a touchscreen, without removing any of its current capabilities . I'm not taking handwritten notes with my finger, get real. A stylus totally changes the range of interactions I can have with a device.

Jobs didn't like Modes -- something you see quite a bit in todays presentation.

He felt that Modes obscure the immediate discoverability of functions and they keep you from pushing your design to ensure you can use something without left clicking or pulling out a pen. It should just work.

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This is Apple definitely responding to high-end pressure from increasingly successful Surfaces in the same way the iPad mini was a response to pressure from the low-end by small Android tablets. This is basically Apple saying "let's make a Surface with a bigger screen and do it the Apple way". It's weird seeing Microsoft participate in it. Other than size, there's not much that Android tablets need to respond to, the…

$1000 gets you a powerful high end laptop in terms of hardware. You might be sacrificing build quality at that price though, but you can get good specs for that.

ThinkPad X series is about that much. (It used to be $2000 but they've come down in price.) Quality is far higher than a MacBook (doesn't burn my skin, has an acceptable keyboard, has buttons to click).

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Pencil. Jobs is spinning in his grave. Edit: 99 dollars !!

$99 is right on par with similar styluses.

Its competitor costs between 35$ and 50$. That isn't on par.

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Surface-Pen-Pro/dp/B00KHQWAI...

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