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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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I don't understand the allure of a "pro" iPad. Wouldn't you just want a laptop then? The keyboard is (at least for me) the fastest accurate text input device ever invented. It's the main reason I type everything instead of write it by hand.

Most of the input they've been showing is drawing and using the stylus. It might not be ideal for programming or writing, but this is going to be ideal for artists, photographers and anyone who wanted a 13" Cintiq.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Predicting now price of $1k or higher. Also the press is absolutely going to hammer Apple for copying the Surface Pro (even down to the name.) EDIT: Ended up a bit high for the base price, $800. But add on any additional storage/LTE capability and you're at $1k. So I was damn close.

If they do, they'll be being intellectually dishonest, given that 'Pro' has been part of Apple's naming scheme for a decade. 'Mac Pro', 'MacBook Pro', 'iPad Pro'.

Microsoft wasn't even making computers when Apple started using the name.

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

Yeah thanks. He also told Tim Cook not to make decisions based on what Tim thought Steve would have done. Which nobody on twitter seems to remember when they post this quote.

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And it's not a Wacom-like active digitizer, you need to actually charge this thing. I feel the stylus that came with Windows XP tablet edition in 2002 was probably better than this.

Yeah the force sensor is in the pencil, not in the screen.

Wacom force sensors are also in the pencil, but they get their power through induction or something from the tablet.

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& just announcing "The Smart Keyboard", smart case built just for iPad Pro with keyboard built in. "Unlike any keyboard you've ever used before." With Apple Fabric! And an Apple Dome Switch!

Hmm ... call me stupid but ipad + keyboard << macbook . What is the point?

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Except it runs iOS and not a full desktop operating system. Why would a "pro" user choose this over a surface pro/MBP/ubuntu certified system?

Because those systems have no good touch enabled software.

A lot of artists use Surface Pros.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"We can have both Word and Excel on the screen at the same time!" - Apple, 2015. These Apple keynotes can be pretty funny.

This is my thought as well-- but the iPad isn't for us, it's for grandmas and quasi-luddites. The marketing and feature set reflects this.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#68

I don't understand the allure of a "pro" iPad. Wouldn't you just want a laptop then? The keyboard is (at least for me) the fastest accurate text input device ever invented. It's the main reason I type everything instead of write it by hand.

Do you draw with your keyboard too? Retouch photos with your keyboard? Your laptop comes with 5million pixels?

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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It is in direct competition to the 'Surface Pro'.

Except it runs iOS and not a full desktop operating system. Why would a "pro" user choose this over a surface pro/MBP/ubuntu certified system?

I happily pay more for well designed products that do less instead of crap products that do everything.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

This is Apple definitely responding to high-end pressure from increasingly successful Surfaces in the same way the iPad mini was a response to pressure from the low-end by small Android tablets.

This is basically Apple saying "let's make a Surface with a bigger screen and do it the Apple way".

It's weird seeing Microsoft participate in it.

Other than size, there's not much that Android tablets need to respond to, there's already been large high-end Android tablets with great pen input (no angle detection, but they're all Watcom class).

What I think was most interesting here was the incessant pitch that this is a productivity device not a media consumption device.

For the full experience you're looking at:

$800 for the pad

$100 for the pencil

$170 for the keyboardcase

And we're in low-end laptop territory without necessarily cannibalizing their laptop business, but it fires shots across the bow of also increasingly popular Chromebooks which are around this price point.

Edit: for people confused, I meant a low-end Apple laptop not a Windows machine, which are much cheaper. This is priced to barely overlap with the bottom-end. The pricing ensures the two segments are partitioned.

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