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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

> It’s right out of the Steve Jobs handbook: something you don’t offer is a > terrible idea, until you offer it yourself, at which point you explain why your > solution is the first to get it right. --Jon Gruber, Daring Fireball

Apple got it right because they were the first to charge 99 bucks for it.

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At that size it is balancing close to the edge where computers live. But my guess is that as long as computers dont have proper touch interfaces tablets will be considered to have a different use senario. It is hard to lift up my computer on the buss and look at a video or browse the web in a somewhat comfortable way.

Touch laptops already exist.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

In context Jobs was talking about a stylus as the only/primary input for the device, meaning you would be required to have a stylus to ever use the device. Of course that would be terrible. This stylus is an optional accessory with a very specific use case. A fundamentally different thing.

This is exactly right, and I'm sure it was a shot at the original Microsoft Tablet PC which required a stylus for input. The Pencil they announced today is very clearly for drawing applications and not intended to be the primary means of interacting with the iPad.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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The iPad Pro is going to be available in November — 32GB for $799, 64GB for $949 and 128GB for $1,079. The $1,079 comes with Wi-Fi and cellular. The keyboard is going to cost $169 and the stylus is going to cost $99 — magic isn’t cheap.

Can someone explain this absurd pricing strategy to me?

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"We can have both Word and Excel on the screen at the same time!" - Apple, 2015. These Apple keynotes can be pretty funny.

I just watched a Computer Chronicles episode about Windows 3.0 introduction and it was .. the same (Windows allowed you to have multiple programs right). Every decade platform change introduce a regression cycle and then you have talks about how you can do all the same things but on new infrastructure.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s right out of the Steve Jobs handbook: something you don’t offer is a > terrible idea, until you offer it yourself, at which point you explain why your > solution is the first to get it right. --Jon Gruber, Daring Fireball

Apple got it right because they were the first to charge 99 bucks for it.

Correct. Until now, a pencil was $50.

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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I don't want it unless it has an exposed CLI without jail breaking.

What do you want the CLI to do? It's pretty fundamental to the iOS model (and the Android one) that apps are isolated from each other, so you certainly could have a CLI app that does stuff (ssh, git, vi?) within its own home directory, but can't interact with the rest of the system. In fact there are Android apps that do this. It's harder on iOS because you don't get fork(), but if someone wanted to try super hard, y…

busybox + filesystem access + a way to raise events for other applications (Android intents equivalent) + a way to install CLI tools with CLI-appropriate sandboxing (python, for example) would be incredibly useful. Done right it'd be the last thing needed to really obsolete pre-mobile OSes. You wouldn't have to abandon the security model.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

There's one in every Apple announcement thread.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

This quote - The whole of Twitter right now But, this is just an accessory. See also: beats headphones, smart case. Unlike the comedy "smartphone" attempts of 2005 which Steve Jobs was alluding to, you may still freely use your fingers.

Comedy "smartphone" attempts? I had a couple of smart phones before the iPhone came out and they offered several things it didn't. The fact that capacitive touchscreens and GPU acceleration weren't as good yet doesn't make them "comedy attempts". More like the incremental developments that provided the base which the iPhone was built upon.

Ignoring the fact that it's all moot now, I was doing GPS navigation, multitasking, audio streaming, and rudimentary video calling on some of those "comedy attempts" from 2005-2007 and I did a lot of it with my fingers as well. The iPhone improved on the touch aspect quite a bit but it's not as if it wasn't missing 10 other things that were common to smartphones of the time.

And that only makes sense. It's good business to focus on the things your competition isn't doing as it allows you to target different parts of the market.

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