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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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It's literally not a general purpose computer, you can't compile and execute code on it. DOS at least came with an assembler-debugger and a linker.

How many of iPad users even know what "compile" means? Why not forget that world does not spin around developers once in a while?

Because its called the iPad Pro?

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This a million times. Apple is just slowly re-inventing the Desktop OS (hey look multi-tasking, a keyboard, etc) while MS went full into a hybrid OS over all its lines that can adapt to whatever hardware its installed on. For all the grief MS got for Windows 8, the move it made was ultimately the right one and builds the proper foundation they need for the future. As side note, lets recall about three or four years a…

Yeah, the whole hybrid thing went really well with Windows and Surface series was a success.

I agree with the fact the the windows10/surface idea is the best for my use and purposes but... I would not call it a success, at least not commercially. The surfaces aren't selling so well atm, even after already 3 iterations.

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no USB port to be able to easily copy files to/from seems a bit detrimental to pro usage, as well as no way to connect an external display for presentations. This said there are plenty of use cases for a larger ipad with a stylus, I am sure it will be a very successful product.

> no USB port to be able to easily copy files to/from

It's networked. iCloud, Dropbox, email, etc.

> as well as no way to connect an external display for presentations.

All current iPads have a dongle for HDMI out. And they can output to Apple TV. Do you think they removed that for this one?

Despite the cute size and gorgeous screen I still haven't found a great use for the iPad.

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Just looked at the dongles available. There's both USB and SD card input and VGA output as well the HDMI I mentioned.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

I'm pretty pleased with the specs on this, because it's perfect for my usecase:

I currently use an ipad 4, with its 10" screen, as a second screen for my mpb retina 13. I like this setup because it's thin and relatively light so slots easily into my bag along with my macbook, and doesn't require a power socket to run, just USB. I also use the ipad for reading and a few other tasks so carrying it around has intrinsic value in addition to being a second screen.

The ipad 4 does a reasonable job, but it's a bit on the small side. This new pro form factor is, however, perfect - 12.9" and higher res than my mbp retina screen means it really can be a true second screen, with roughly identical capabilities to my main screen. I'm pretty happy about this.

Won't be upgrading just yet on account of the price, but when it drops enough, replacing my current ipad with this will be a no-brainer.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large

The surface pro didn't do anything new at all. It was windows for tablets with decent industrial design (great design aside from the keyboards). It's not like Apple hadn't dicked around with keyboard covers et al since back in the Newton days. This isn't a question of who did hardware feature X first but who did user feature Y right. The jury is out but when I went to a Microsoft store ready to buy a maxed out surface pro, five minutes with the keyboard and microsoft's horrible UI designs turned me off. (I see in the MS office demo that they've removed some cruft but still don't design decent touch UIs. )

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It is interesting comparing Microsoft and Apple's convertible tablet strategy. Microsoft's devices use the full OS and are basically laptops first and tablets second while Apple is doing the opposite. If this is truly designed to be "Pro" as in enterprise , I think Microsoft's strategy is going to lead to more productive and therefore better enterprise devices. EDIT: And after the price is revealed the scales tip a l…

None of that really matters though. It's all about the applications. If you need to run Windows software, buy a Windows machine. If the applications you depend on require iOS, buy an iPad.

Other non-software features (like battery life and weight) matter as well.

Price doesn't really matter though.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large

And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

Well, it did take them about a decade to catch up with Microsoft when they introduced the iPad. Bill Gates announced tablets 15 years ago:

http://youtu.be/T5Va8XfuN9s

What really is happening is the usual trolling that happens after every Apple event.

Apple has different priorities. They'll make tablets more functional as CPU and battery improve. There will be a conversion with the desktop, or at least low-end laptops, at some point. When they put a fan in the iPad then you can question if they've lost their way.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

They sure copy, but so did others too all the time. Apples move with the pencil is more targeted at businesses, hospitals and such. Win the users at home first, convert them easily at work later, at a higher price with a better margin.

Looks like their target is creatives to me. At least based on the video. But I'm itching to use one for both sketches and meeting notes.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Most of the input they've been showing is drawing and using the stylus. It might not be ideal for programming or writing, but this is going to be ideal for artists, photographers and anyone who wanted a 13" Cintiq.

> "this is going to be ideal for artists, photographers and anyone who wanted a 13" Cintiq" No, a 13" Cintiq is perfect for artists, & photographers who need a 13" Cintiq. This is perfect for anyone who has no idea what they're doing.

This is much more portable (since you don't have to attach it to a computer - you can carry it around like a paper notebook), has a significantly higher resolution display, and is not much more expensive (especially considering the difference in internals).

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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People crying about Steve Job's views on a stylus:

1. Really, he said that for a phone. But considering the argument valid even on a tablet, well, to put it in scale, the iPad Pro is barely a tablet. It's nearly the average laptop screen(not considering those shitty huge ones that don't fit in bags).

2. Have you even looked at that thing. It's pretty slick. Imagine the utility to artists(the pencil from FiftyThree is an example of its utility).

3. They don't put a ass-like slot to shove it up. Period. That is, I suspect the biggest problem I've had with a stylus. They just do NOT make it compulsory for you to buy one, contrary to what Microsoft or Samsung would have(and are still) done.

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