It is in direct competition to the 'Surface Pro'.
Except it runs iOS and not a full desktop operating system. Why would a "pro" user choose this over a surface pro/MBP/ubuntu certified system?
Apple Unveils the iPad Pro
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#102"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs
This is Apple definitely responding to high-end pressure from increasingly successful Surfaces in the same way the iPad mini was a response to pressure from the low-end by small Android tablets. This is basically Apple saying "let's make a Surface with a bigger screen and do it the Apple way". It's weird seeing Microsoft participate in it. Other than size, there's not much that Android tablets need to respond to, the…
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#103"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs
Great. I love it when a company re-evaluates and introduces technology they previously said was a bad idea, but have reconsidered. More of this sort of thing!
The original stylus comment was for a 3.5" pocket phone. Previously, things like Palm Treo or Windows Mobile devices required a stylus to touch the resistive sensing screen. That is the baseline.
Anybody taking the quotes out of historical context is just trying to incite an argument and pretend they are better than Tim Cook. Nobody is better than Tim Cook.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
For navigating and general use on a 3.5" screen, he was dead on. For drawing on a screen of any size, especially a 12" one, the stylus makes plenty of sense.
He was talking about the iPad at the time. Further his statement was the existence of a stylus, not the necessity of it. http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/jobs-if-you-see-a-stylus-... He specifically refers to the iPad in the actual quote. Anyone claiming otherwise is simply wrong or a revisionist, though such sorts seep out of the woodwork whenever Apple cedes prior claims, rephrasing and adding unspoken criteria t…
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#105They announced a Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2"
Which for people already invested in the Apple ecosystem is probably a big deal, even though Android and Windows each already had something in this class (Windows option being a bit more expensive normal price, but with a full desktop OS.)
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#106"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs
Hence, it's not a stylus, but an actual active pencil-like device for drawing. But yeah, lets not let the facts get in the way.
Stylus noun, plural styli [stahy-lahy] (Show IPA), styluses.
2) any of various pointed, pen-shaped instruments used in drawing, artwork, etc.
3) Computers. a pen-shaped device used on a display screen to input commands or handwritten text or drawings. Compare joystick (def 2), mouse (def 4).
But yeah, lets not let the facts get in the way.
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#107Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large
source?
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#108It is interesting comparing Microsoft and Apple's convertible tablet strategy. Microsoft's devices use the full OS and are basically laptops first and tablets second while Apple is doing the opposite. If this is truly designed to be "Pro" as in enterprise , I think Microsoft's strategy is going to lead to more productive and therefore better enterprise devices. EDIT: And after the price is revealed the scales tip a l…
I can't imagine shelling out near a $1,000+ for this thing (lets price in the keyboard and other accessories) when I can get a proper Macbook or Surface Pro, both which are much more capable. I imagine this will become the next hot executive toy (I need my twitter and my exchange mail up at the same time, nerds!). It'll sell in predictable low numbers and then one day mysteriously disappear from the Apple webpage with no fanfare.
I feel Apple has painted itself in a corner here. It never bonded OSX and iOS and carefully made them separate products. This probably made sense 5-6 years ago, but unified devices are now practical and affordable. I suspect Apple has a unified OS ready to go soon and is just buying time with this "Pro" to seem competitive. I can't imagine the status quo lasting. What exactly does a mobile OS get me, especially when it needs hardware and RAM on the level of a desktop OS not too long ago? Trying to "keep it simple" is what got Nokia and Blackberry killed. I fear that this industry is destined to just re-invent the desktop, but with sexier devices, in the end.
I'm not one to underestimate Apple, but the past couple years have been underwhelming. Even their much hyped watch is a fairly milquetoast design with a poor value proposition. Or the mobile game has simply matured and there are no more big ideas in this space. Are we at the "gimmicks and minor refinements" stage of this technology?
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#110I feel like apple has really been resting on its laurels the last few years. During the Jobsian era they'd come up with a new, category-defining product every few years. Now all we get is yearly updates of existing product lines.
well, here's hoping for a "one more thing" moment.