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Post by wesapien »

jszymborski wrote: post #25
mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

Isn't that how it works Pre-Elon, Twitter had protected classes and ideological profiling of enemies.

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

shadowgovt wrote: post #810
instagraham wrote: post #808

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with screenshots of text? They're easily readable. The white background makes things stand out more than just posting text on stock Twitter. It's one reason Insta story posts and even slides have text. Technological progress doesn't mean making user-hostile design. If users like a format or medium, you can offer it to them even if your platform is capable of greater things.

Mostly the fact that they completely ignore accessibility. In fact, if Twitter did want to improve the user experience, automatic OCR of such text and generation of the corresponding alt tag would be a practical improvement. In fact, general recognition of the content of an image and auto generation of an ALT tag would be a significant improvement. ... But that require them to do actual machine learning as opposed to…

Twitter does a lot of actual machine learning, but mostly to improve ad clickability.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by dotancohen »

georgestrakhov wrote: post #897
everyone wrote: post #896

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Also its terrible for accessibility. Text can be manipulated and rendered in all sorts of ways. Tim Berners Lee is rolling in his grave!!

He is not dead yet. So at most rolling his eyes.

He feels fine!

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by Elinvynia »

bergenty wrote: post #880
mikkergp wrote: post #449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is vague, but you're hoping to end the political oppression of trans people? > restore sanity to science and biology based cultural agreement What does this mean, like scientific studies on how to get people to agree?

Rather the opposite. Return to sanity with gender defined by biology and provide mental health treatment for trans.

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Post by blagie »

Xelynega wrote: post #723
blagie wrote: post #719

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Ho boy was Twitter mismanaged up to now. I think that's why he bought it.

Mismanaged according to who, him? He bought it because he forced the stock price down with the announcement and was forced into buying it.

It was mismanaged according to *me*. I posted my opinion. It may be incorrect. That's true of most posts on the internet.

Twitter has 7,500 employees. It doesn't take that many to run a Twitter. Most Twitter employees I know use their positions to work on things weakly aligned with the success of Twitter, such as random political or nerdy projects. That's a small sample set, but the things I hear raise my eyebrows.

If Twitter were private, and management aligned to shareholder value, the value could increase by a lot. I'm not sure if Musk can do that, or if it isn't overvalued in the first place, but that's my opinion on Twitter management from where I sit.

It's not uncommon for public companies, especially older ones, by the way. In many cases, almost every employee, right up through the CEO, is there to maximize their income, to maximize their future career prospects, and to have fun. That doesn't always align well with shareholder value.

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Post by pydry »

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #732
dvt wrote: post #705

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I don't think he'd sell. At this point, I think it's more of a "crown jewel" for him—like the tech nerd equivalent of owning a baseball or a basketball team.

I guess so, maybe? Though I can barely think of a less interesting tech-y thing to own than something like Twitter when you already own SpaceX and Tesla. In terms of Tech-y-ness, Twitter is a spectacular downgrade.

Twitter is to Musk what the Washington Post was to Bezos.

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Post by scaramanga »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #196
mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

This is rather confusing to me. Earlier this year he seemed pretty set on the idea of allowing whatever's legal, making Twitter all about free speech. But now it'll just get some minor changes? If it's true, why the change of heart?

It may be time to consider the possibility that you have been reading far too much in to the inane witterings of one of the world's most prolific compulsive liars and fantasists.

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Post by scaramanga »

sam0x17 wrote: post #865
mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

Don't forget he's super anti-remote-work which is going to scare a way a good 30% of the employees anyway

sure, between that and the quid-pro-quo sexual harassment...

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Post by eruci »

hackernewds wrote: post #770
eruci wrote: post #613

Diversity of viewpoints is good, even if they are all "wrong" with various amounts of "nuggets" of truth. The futile exercise of preventing someone from hurting someone else's feelings, is the main casualty, and that's a very very good thing.

"vaccines cause mild autism" Misinformation has real world impact

"earth is flat" - that misinformation has no impact unless you make a big deal about it, we can simply laugh it off and move on.

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Post by xbfjvusb6 »

snovv_crash wrote: post #879
xbfjvusb6 wrote: post #864

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OCR is a solved problem. It's like one call to tesseract and you're done. The fact they haven't done this just shows how inept their employees are.

Tesseract has a horrific API and decades of technical debt. Add to this, it's also very sensitive to fonts. So... yeah, OCR is 'solved', but that doesn't mean it's easy.

Solved for most the image text I see on social.
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