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Post by the_doctah »

greenthrow wrote: post #375
mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

You are taking him at his word when he has demonstrated time and time again that he should not be taken at his word.

"I'm going to buy Twitter"

- Elon Musk

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Post by im_down_w_otp »

dvt wrote: post #705
Retric wrote: post #693

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The most likely result seems to be he sells it within 5 years after making zero meaningful changes and taking a massive loss. I don’t know if that’s a good or bad result.

I don't think he'd sell. At this point, I think it's more of a "crown jewel" for him—like the tech nerd equivalent of owning a baseball or a basketball team.

I guess so, maybe? Though I can barely think of a less interesting tech-y thing to own than something like Twitter when you already own SpaceX and Tesla. In terms of Tech-y-ness, Twitter is a spectacular downgrade.

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Post by zajio1am »

rayiner wrote: post #674
andsoitis wrote: post #656

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> It has only been very, very recently that we have gone from "gender is a social construct" to "sex is a social construct." I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say that sex is a social construct. Gender yes. And that gender and sex are orthogonal. And that gender is a spectrum but sex in humans is binary. Maybe I missed the evolution of the conversation but I don’t think I’ve seen any volume of argument that sex is a soc…

Orthogonal means uncorrelated. Sex and gender are in reality highly, though not perfectly, correlated.

I would say 'orthogonal' is used for conceptually independent, not causally independent nor statistically independent (uncorrelated). So i would say that sex and gender are conceptually independent, although in reality statistically highly correlated.

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Post by Waterluvian »

MonkeyMalarky wrote: post #708
Waterluvian wrote: post #373

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That’s awful. And I’ve also witnessed the same kind of abuse that goes ignored. Has any large social media site ever solved this? 4chan does by having no rules: if you show up, expect the absolute worst of humanity. Reddit does by having countless volunteer moderators who basically do 98% of the moderation. Facebook suffers from the same problems as Twitter.

Make people pay for a subscription and use some of the money to fund moderation?

Oooh I forgot! The Something Awful forums approach. I think this is the best one.

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Post by fshbbdssbbgdd »

dvt wrote: post #705
Retric wrote: post #693

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most likely result seems to be he sells it within 5 years after making zero meaningful changes and taking a massive loss. I don’t know if that’s a good or bad result.

I don't think he'd sell. At this point, I think it's more of a "crown jewel" for him—like the tech nerd equivalent of owning a baseball or a basketball team.

Twitter will owe > 1B/year in interest. If it doesn’t start making money, it either goes bankrupt or Elon bails it out.

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Post by [deleted] »

jszymborski wrote: post #25
mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

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Post by the_doctah »

howinteresting wrote: post #660
jl6 wrote: post #487

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Some people believe sex is a spectrum, or that it can be changed, but it’s super-fringe and mostly reflects ignorance of the difference between sex and gender rather than being a serious philosophical position.

"Sex is a spectrum" is hard scientific truth. Unlike computers, biology doesn't work in binaries. Intersex people exist and are surprisingly common.

Allow me to introduce you to the X and Y chromosomes.

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Post by haberman »

slg wrote: post #345
partiallypro wrote: post #280

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Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Kanye's ban, he's just a mentally ill person. I don't think he meant "death con" he just didn't know that it's actually "def con." His remarks are still reprehensible. Twitter's whole moderation problem has been it i…

>Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Twitter banned the Babylon Bee for targeting a random and rather anonymous bureaucrat that likely isn't among the 1000 most powerful people in government in the US for the sole purpose that she is trans. This target…

> Their behavior was a part of a harassment campaign against someone who is largely a private citizen in this instance.

What you call a "harassment campaign" happens constantly on Twitter, driven by Twitter's own site and algorithms. Twitter frequently has a "main character" of the day, driven by the "What's Trending" sidebar on the home page, as well as quote Tweets by people with thousands or millions of followers that encourages and incentivizes the dragging of people who have little power. If this is a bannable offense, Twitter should ban itself.

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Post by the_doctah »

slg wrote: post #345
partiallypro wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Kanye's ban, he's just a mentally ill person. I don't think he meant "death con" he just didn't know that it's actually "def con." His remarks are still reprehensible. Twitter's whole moderation problem has been it i…

>Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Twitter banned the Babylon Bee for targeting a random and rather anonymous bureaucrat that likely isn't among the 1000 most powerful people in government in the US for the sole purpose that she is trans. This target…

>likely isn't among the 1000 most powerful people in government

Why does that matter?

>has led to her getting death threats

OK, punish the people who did the illegal thing. Imagine having personal responsibility!

>Being a satire site doesn't mean we can laugh off all their behavior as a joke

Yes, yes that's exactly what it means.

>Their behavior was a part of a harassment campaign against someone who is largely a private citizen in this instance

No, one article is not a harassment campaign.

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Post by fatneckbeardz »

mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

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