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I got a 7 day ban for a tweet that included “political suicide pact” as an idiom. I then got permanently banned for including the line, “sending their children to die in Ukraine” in a tweet. The “appeal” button causes me to get a denied email within one minute. This tells me no humans are in the loop on any of this. I don’t think these tweets were controversial or require any diversity of viewpoints. They just requir…

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I don't think he'd sell. At this point, I think it's more of a "crown jewel" for him—like the tech nerd equivalent of owning a baseball or a basketball team.

I guess so, maybe? Though I can barely think of a less interesting tech-y thing to own than something like Twitter when you already own SpaceX and Tesla. In terms of Tech-y-ness, Twitter is a spectacular downgrade.

Space and car companies are highly dependent on the government, so maybe less a tech jewel than a political one.

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You are taking him at his word when he has demonstrated time and time again that he should not be taken at his word.

"I'm going to buy Twitter" - Elon Musk

He tried to back out and only followed through after being sued.

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> It turns out to be buried under a "more" menu, so I maintain that this is a niche feature that you'd need to go out of your way to suffer. I never turned it on or tapped on it, and don't follow any topics. It still intersperses "Comedy", "Crypto", and "Movies" tweets (labelled as such) into my main timeline. And I don't know why you don't see "popular tweets" (it's actually "More tweets", I misspoke). I've been see…

Oh! I know what the difference is. You are using the Twitter "Home" view and I am using the "Latest Tweets" view. I highly recommend switching, at least if you want to not see things from outside your followed accounts.

Looks like that fixed it. Thanks!

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It’s amazing to me that the HN hive mind has decided that somehow one of the most successful people on the planet, who’s built a successful electric car company, a private rocketry company and was part of the people who laid foundation for a “payment system for the internet” is somehow doomed to fail in his new venture. The excitement for this new move seems not just low here but overwhelmingly negative. “It can’t be…

>It’s amazing to me that the HN hive mind has decided that somehow one of the most successful people on the planet, who’s built a successful electric car company, a private rocketry company and was part of the people who laid foundation for a “payment system for the internet” is somehow doomed to fail in his new venture. It has been interesting to read it today. Fundamentally elon has simply called for politically ne…

> Is giving the republicans their voice back and allowing them to speak really such a nightmare?

I wasn't aware Republicans were being suppressed for their desire for a more conservative economic policy, smaller government, and lower taxes.

Or...which Republican ideas do you see being suppressed online.

Be specific :)

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This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

> This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. He literally just had every engineer print out the last 3 months of code lol

I understand he also laid off the entire data engineering team, that news being sourced from Messrs. Ligma & Johnson, two prankster nerds who went to the vicinity of Twitter HQ and walked around carrying cardboard boxes.

Definitely a story to be careful on

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I don't see anything in Elon Musk's past operation of businesses as CEO that suggests to me he's going to have a better sense of how to run a social network than the previous operators. I predict the best case scenario is that he does no worse.

Twitter is basically an internet scale public bathroom wall with everyone scrawling short hot takes onto the walls. The best case scenario has always been that it shut down and I hope we are one day closer to that eventuality. It is ironic and laughable that Elons post to advertisers is done with screenshots of text. After 20+ years of mainstream networked computing this is what passes as a state of art platform and…

What's wrong with screenshots of text? They're easily readable. The white background makes things stand out more than just posting text on stock Twitter. It's one reason Insta story posts and even slides have text.

Technological progress doesn't mean making user-hostile design. If users like a format or medium, you can offer it to them even if your platform is capable of greater things.

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post #790

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Mismanaged according to who, him? He bought it because he forced the stock price down with the announcement and was forced into buying it.

"Forced into buying it" is really not an accurate way to think about it. It makes it sound like he never wanted to buy Twitter, when in fact he did want to buy it for less money because he knew the valuation was too high (because of bot farms, managerial bloat, &c.)

> he knew the valuation was too high (because of bot farms, managerial bloat, &c.)

"He knew the valuation was too high" is really not an accurate way to think about it. It makes it sound like he successfully proved those claims, when in fact he failed to present compelling enough evidence in court when he tried to use legal action to back out.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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post #764

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Twitter is basically an internet scale public bathroom wall with everyone scrawling short hot takes onto the walls. The best case scenario has always been that it shut down and I hope we are one day closer to that eventuality. It is ironic and laughable that Elons post to advertisers is done with screenshots of text. After 20+ years of mainstream networked computing this is what passes as a state of art platform and…

What's wrong with screenshots of text? They're easily readable. The white background makes things stand out more than just posting text on stock Twitter. It's one reason Insta story posts and even slides have text. Technological progress doesn't mean making user-hostile design. If users like a format or medium, you can offer it to them even if your platform is capable of greater things.

Mostly the fact that they completely ignore accessibility.

In fact, if Twitter did want to improve the user experience, automatic OCR of such text and generation of the corresponding alt tag would be a practical improvement. In fact, general recognition of the content of an image and auto generation of an ALT tag would be a significant improvement.

... But that require them to do actual machine learning as opposed to being the internet's bathroom stall wall.

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