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Re: FBI Seeking Information Related to Violent Activity at the U.S. Capitol Building

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They don't seem to think what they did was wrong - but they also didn't seem to understand it was serious. There is a youtube video of a young woman expressing her utter shock and dismay at being maced as she literally tried to storm congress and disrupt the national democratic process. It is amazing to watch, just for how weirdly naive and entitled she is while right up saying they were trying for a revolution. What…

Oh you must mean [the one holding the onion in her towel?]( https://youtu.be/vcaJFGQHdnA )

Now you mention it, it does look like that!

WTF...

Re: FBI Seeking Information Related to Violent Activity at the U.S. Capitol Building

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post #42

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They don't seem to think what they did was wrong - but they also didn't seem to understand it was serious. There is a youtube video of a young woman expressing her utter shock and dismay at being maced as she literally tried to storm congress and disrupt the national democratic process. It is amazing to watch, just for how weirdly naive and entitled she is while right up saying they were trying for a revolution. What…

Is that the video where it appears she's rubbing an onion into her eye? Anyway, for another example of "they also didn't seem to understand it was serious," the quote from the feet-up-on-the-desk guy: > "I'll probably be telling them this is what happened all the way to the D.C. jail," Mr. Barnett said. He's glib about it the same way you might be about spending a night in the drunk tank after getting a little too cr…

It does kinda look like an onion in the first few frames there. Very odd.

Re: FBI Seeking Information Related to Violent Activity at the U.S. Capitol Building

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The one that's really wanted is this guy.[1] This is someone in the Senate chamber with zip-ties. This is not the retired USAF officer who was arrested with zip-ties.[2] The person in [1] is thinner, in good shape, and wearing completely different tactical gear, along with a Punisher logo on an American flag. [1] https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/protesters-enter-the-se... [2] https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox5d…

Eric Munchel: https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1347783405677776897 And, yes, that photo is chilling. The zip-ties, together with the functional gallows they previously erected outside, puts the lie to all claims of peacefulness.

You sure this isn’t doxxing?

Edit tweet wasn’t deleted

Re: FBI Seeking Information Related to Violent Activity at the U.S. Capitol Building

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Not really contradictory. I trust the Feds and the intelligence community a hell of a lot more with protecting a country from sedition than your average local cop who dropped out of middle school so he can bully people of colour with a baton

“i trust the feds and intelligence community” thought you guys learned from the patriot act and iraq war and iran contra and million other examples but guess not

You turned a relative statement with an explicit caveat into an absolutist statement. You are being purposefully misleading.

Re: FBI Seeking Information Related to Violent Activity at the U.S. Capitol Building

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That very same essay literally means the other hashtag so I'm confused: "By abolishing policing and prisons, not only can we eliminate white supremacist establishments, but we can create space for budgets to be reinvested directly into communities to address mental health needs, homelessness and houselessness, access to education, and job creation as well as community-based methods of accountability . This is a futur…

There is a very big distinction between some diversion of funding and responsibility away from police towards those issues and abolishing the police. Anyone who says it doesn’t mean abolish the police is ignoring the fact that for many activists it does mean abolish the police . The hashtag does not imply abolishing the police, but that is exactly what defund the police means to many people.

Abolishing the police is a rather fringe idea though, and it's not the colloquial meaning for "defund the police"(a terrible catch phrase BTW).

Representing it as such seams misinformed at best, but likely(IMHO) disingenuous.

Re: FBI Seeking Information Related to Violent Activity at the U.S. Capitol Building

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Eric Munchel: https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1347783405677776897 And, yes, that photo is chilling. The zip-ties, together with the functional gallows they previously erected outside, puts the lie to all claims of peacefulness.

You sure this isn’t doxxing? Edit tweet wasn’t deleted

Twitter has weird issues. Sometimes the tweets appear deleted, but a refresh shows it.

That user didn't post the name until other sources did, so not doxxing

Re: FBI Seeking Information Related to Violent Activity at the U.S. Capitol Building

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Sorry, I downvoted because t*rr*r is a common tr*gger word for some folks. If a corporation is not morally responsible enough to censor irresponsible comments, then the community must feel empowered to do so.

So you downvoted it because the word terror might upset other people? This is a post about an attack that killed at least 5 people.

Words have power [1]. The power to help and the power to harm. And in the age of social media, that power is magnified more than ever before [2]. So while the intent of the comment may have been to improve our shared world, that doesn't give a warrant to do more harm. We all need to chip in to ensure our words are precise and devoid of language that might upset, frighten, or harm others in our community.

And one more thing- which I'm sure doesn't apply to you- the idea that past harm justifies new harm is the same beliefs that justified the rise of a certain dictator in a certain central european power behaved in the 1930s/40s.

Let's work together make this community one that everyone wants to participate in!

1. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6324786/amp

2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisonescalante/2020/08/03/rese...

Re: FBI Seeking Information Related to Violent Activity at the U.S. Capitol Building

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You sure this isn’t doxxing? Edit tweet wasn’t deleted

Twitter has weird issues. Sometimes the tweets appear deleted, but a refresh shows it. That user didn't post the name until other sources did, so not doxxing

Is “it’s ok, I heard it from another guy” not still doxxing? IDK, not sure what the rules here are.

Re: FBI Seeking Information Related to Violent Activity at the U.S. Capitol Building

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Counterproductive regardless. Peaceful non-destructive protests have achieved a lot more social change in modern history than violent and/or destructive methods.

Are you familiar with the capitol bombing, Bill Ayers, weather underground, and Obama launching his political career from Ayer’s house? Ayers being famous for admitting he doesn’t regret setting the bomb. Instead of being labeled a terrorist, he was made a professor and launched a lot of the social justice movement in education. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/03/02/a-... https://thehill.com/blogs…

You are right. In the end the narrative is what matters. Those with the power (left, blm etc) will dictate truth regardless
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