Some of the comments in this thread are talking about government corruption and safety issues but I think we should put something into perspective. Not a single passenger has died on a commercial flight in the United States in the last five years, and even then, it was a single fatality in a freak occurrence. To me, that’s not government corruption but mind boggling success. To put that into perspective, you have a s…
FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s
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Re: FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s
#802Clearly they need more exemptions.
I bet they are lobbying for it right now
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#803Re: FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s
#804Earlier quoted context omitted.
Airplanes are inherently much, much less reliable than cars and only reach reliability through however many millions or billions of dollars worth of redundant systems and maintenance intervals and however many man-hours. That means that when you get on an airplane, you are extremely reliant on those systems and processes having been followed. We are seeing more and more that these systems and processes have been brea…
And that is why I think it is absolutely, mind bogglingly bonkers that Tesla is currently using "drive by wire" in a mass production car when this technology is not common in aviation at all. Only the huge airliners that benefit from extremely expensive maintenance schedules use full "fly by wire".
Re: FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s
#805Interesting timeline. Following the two fatal crashes involving the MCAS system and the 737 Max … The FAA gave Boeing until Dec of 2022 to implement a fix. The fix was to reconfigure the 737 Max with 2 sensors (instead of one) and include an manual shutoff Guess what happened? Boeing didn’t fix anything.. instead they cried to congress that the fix is too expensive and they cannot get it done. So what happens is cong…
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#806Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my case it was not more expensive, no. But I was flying in Europe. Not sure about the US. They just use them for the quieter flights where they have trouble filling up a 737. I was dreading it because the last time I flew on an airliner this size it was a 717 and it was horrible. Very noisy in particular (I was seated right beside the engine I have to say). The Embraer was really delightful and it has under-wing e…
Here in the US basically all the regional airlines use them. Horizon Airlines is one that I know of specifically, and Wikipedia lists Sky West, Envoy Air, Mesa Airlines, Republic Airways, JetBlue, etc, etc. Many of them contract for the more well–known airlines like Delta, US Airways, and so on, so you could end up on an Embraer even if you don’t seek it out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_ERJ_family
which personally I like less than
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Canada_Dash_8
The newer and larger E-Jets are on a whole different level in terms of comfort.
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#807Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only commercial. If you add in General Aviation with some random poorly maintained Cessnas from the 70s piloted by some randoms in their 70s then it's a completely different picture.
I've heard that private aviation and private driving have comparable accident rate, which makes sense. Now I wonder how's the rate of both public transportation.
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#808Good book describing the cultural change from engineering-focus to business-focus of Boeing: * https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55994102-flying-blind * https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646497/flying-blind...
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#809Almost all of this can be laid specifically to the moment when Boeing passed over Alan Mullally for its next CEO in favor of a bean counter. Mullaly went to Ford and rescued that company. If Boeings board were serious about a true turnover here, they need to try and find Mullally And get him on the board right now. At this point the best outcome that I see is a BCA sale to Lockheed. That’s a high order, Elon tried to…
> It’s not that much worse than airbus was at after their A320 flew into a forest and they hid the flight data recorders,... This one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_296Q Doesn't read like "they" = Airbus hid the recorders.
Re: FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s
#810Interesting timeline. Following the two fatal crashes involving the MCAS system and the 737 Max … The FAA gave Boeing until Dec of 2022 to implement a fix. The fix was to reconfigure the 737 Max with 2 sensors (instead of one) and include an manual shutoff Guess what happened? Boeing didn’t fix anything.. instead they cried to congress that the fix is too expensive and they cannot get it done. So what happens is cong…