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OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Post by kelseyfrog »

gumballindie wrote: post #69
kelseyfrog wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there an open license or ToS that would disallow OpenAI access?

Apparently openai and the rest of defendants claim that if it’s on the internet it’s “fair use”. Meaning they’ll do all they can tk steal your work regardless of licensing or robots.txt rules.

That's a funny argument.

It's a lot like saying, "if it's on Github, I can ignore your LICENSE file" or "if it's on DA I can ignore your CC-NC license." Both of these seem technically enforceable (if not expensive) so I'm not quite understanding what OpenAI is grounding their justification in.

It seems much more likely that OpenAI stands to make a lot of money by arguing that it's fair use and then back filling in an argument rather than making one from first principles.

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Post by reaperman »

junon wrote: post #73
Reviving1514 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi ultimate is 25 a month and has Claude, GPT4, and AI web search. Been using it a month or so and it's great.

How is Kagi for niche stuff? I'm frequently searching for niche and hard to find programming information about processors and whatnot and google/DDG have only gotten worse with time.

Can also try Phind.com

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Post by tarboreus »

junon wrote: post #73
Reviving1514 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi ultimate is 25 a month and has Claude, GPT4, and AI web search. Been using it a month or so and it's great.

How is Kagi for niche stuff? I'm frequently searching for niche and hard to find programming information about processors and whatnot and google/DDG have only gotten worse with time.

I use Kagi. Probably not better than Google, but often with less junk. It's much better than DDG. The extra features are nice, as are the customizations (boost specific domains, etc.) I thought I'd be !g-ing to find things on Google, but I rarely do, and I'm constantly researching niche stuff. When I do try !g, I generally find that Google doesn't have the results, either. Kagi also seems to do better with really old results that Google has memory holded.

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Post by gumballindie »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #81
gumballindie wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently openai and the rest of defendants claim that if it’s on the internet it’s “fair use”. Meaning they’ll do all they can tk steal your work regardless of licensing or robots.txt rules.

That's a funny argument. It's a lot like saying, "if it's on Github, I can ignore your LICENSE file" or "if it's on DA I can ignore your CC-NC license." Both of these seem technically enforceable (if not expensive) so I'm not quite understanding what OpenAI is grounding their justification in. It seems much more likely that OpenAI stands to make a lot of money by arguing that it's fair use and then back filling in an…

A”I” depends on data. The more the better. That’s why a lot of these people push for a disregard of people’s property (digital content, behaviour data, etc). Problem is in stealing all of it they will demotivate people from creating quality content and even alienate them from the dead internet.

OpenAI leads the cult.

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Post by latchkey »

Reviving1514 wrote: post #30
wordpad25 wrote: post #26

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ChatGPT, Claude and prepexity are each $20/mo Chatgpt4 seems most powerful but Claude offers unlimited context which can be used to summarize entire books Prepexity can browse and summarize web Which one should I subscribe to?

Kagi ultimate is 25 a month and has Claude, GPT4, and AI web search. Been using it a month or so and it's great.

The only bummer is that it doesn't have DALLE.

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Post by doug_durham »

glenstein wrote: post #74
rrrix1 wrote: post #51

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This example is more likely due to that specific page/site lacking any kind of accessibility information (e.g. how people who are blind, deaf or have other disabilities can use the internet), rather than being large or complex. Relatedly, in my experience, for some reason most internet properties relating to anything sports related (MLB, NFL, NHL, or even small town little league) have absolutely terrible, extremely…

How come the lack of disability info would make it hard for ChatGPT to interpret the page? I think I missed a step there.

Because on accessible pages there is alt-text for all graphical elements so that screen readers can get the content for visually impaired users.

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Post by aussiegreenie »

latchkey wrote: post #86
Reviving1514 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi ultimate is 25 a month and has Claude, GPT4, and AI web search. Been using it a month or so and it's great.

The only bummer is that it doesn't have DALLE.

Bing has Dalle-3 access for free.

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Post by Terretta »

jtbayly wrote: post #80
lsedgwick wrote: post #25

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Please don't paste ChatGPT or BARD answers as HN comments in general? In this specific case, no, LLMs don't reliably know about themselves. They're trained on a big corpus of internet text, then trained by rough reinforcement learning to say and not say certain things about themselves, then given a little more information about themselves in system prompts.

If you’re right, then this is probably the best proof that I’ve seen that ChatGPT isn’t even remotely conscious.

Imagine a distant future where there're so many crimes and so few judges you're cryofrozen awaiting trial.

If you were repeatedly flash frozen and flash unthawed to be asked questions about yourself, with the same memories upon thawing as when frozen, for those moments you weren't frozen would you be "remotely conscious"?

I think you'd think you think, don't you think?

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Post by famouswaffles »

senectus1 wrote: post #15
i_k_k wrote: post #9

So this means it can actually do things now, at least in principle, right?

Not according to ChatGPT a few seconds ago Default (GPT-3.5) User do you have access to search the internet yet? ChatGPT I do not have the capability to search the internet or access real-time information. My knowledge is based on the text that I was trained on, and my training only includes information up until September 2021. I can provide information and answer questions to the best of my knowledge up to that date…

3.5 can't browse. Only 4
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