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OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Do you know what model perplexity uses under the hood? I just tried it out with my normal test queries and found it to be far worse than Google's Bard.

To be fair, Bard has massively improved recently and can in my brief experience even outperform 3.5-turbo for lots of things.

Except that it still has a short ctx size.

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Or perplexity.ai which I find better than phind. Faster, looks better, more features.

Perplexity now requires dismissing 2 prompts before use, every single time. (Install their iOS app. Log in with Google.)

Why every successful web app gets plagued by these things?…

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ChatGPT, Claude and prepexity are each $20/mo Chatgpt4 seems most powerful but Claude offers unlimited context which can be used to summarize entire books Prepexity can browse and summarize web Which one should I subscribe to?

Kagi ultimate is 25 a month and has Claude, GPT4, and AI web search. Been using it a month or so and it's great.

How is Kagi for niche stuff? I'm frequently searching for niche and hard to find programming information about processors and whatnot and google/DDG have only gotten worse with time.

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It’s also pretty useless at understanding any page that’s even remotely complex. I asked it to tell me when the next baseball home game is so I can avoid traffic when going to the downtown library and it couldn’t answer even that basic question. The search results defaulted to the team’s official calendar but the day numbers were displayed as images so they could style them in the team’s font, making them invisible t…

This example is more likely due to that specific page/site lacking any kind of accessibility information (e.g. how people who are blind, deaf or have other disabilities can use the internet), rather than being large or complex. Relatedly, in my experience, for some reason most internet properties relating to anything sports related (MLB, NFL, NHL, or even small town little league) have absolutely terrible, extremely…

How come the lack of disability info would make it hard for ChatGPT to interpret the page? I think I missed a step there.

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I wonder if AI generated web pages block AI agents from indexing their content, like, one engine indexing the other's content in a loop until the amount of digital garbage is so gigantic that is the end of the information era, or how are we ever stopping this? What is our failsafe?

AI Kessler Syndrome. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

Is there an approximation/ratio in which the amount of digital garbage/hallucinations online generated by AI is so big that it cannot be used to train AI itself? Like are AI companies running against the clock because, say, in 5 years the internet will be flooded by false information to such an extent that it would render the internet as an invalid training ground. In a way requiring a snapshot of the internet pre-AI, because this is click bait problem times infinity it feels like

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This time it's not scraping the internet (like a robot) but actually acting as a direct user agent for the human typing their prompt, so I wouldn't be against them ignoring robots.txt.

My understanding is that the philosophy behind robots.txt is owners not wanting their content automatically included in someone else's product, if not duplicated and recorded wholesale. The important idea seems to be ownership, not the ability to browse. If OpenAI had two agents, one with no memory, and one with a memory, that would be better: you could disallow ChaptGPT-storage and allow ChatGPT-user, for example. B…

As I recall it it was also to block access to scripts, so it wouldn't e.g get stuck pulling pointless stuff out of your local search page.

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Not according to ChatGPT a few seconds ago Default (GPT-3.5) User do you have access to search the internet yet? ChatGPT I do not have the capability to search the internet or access real-time information. My knowledge is based on the text that I was trained on, and my training only includes information up until September 2021. I can provide information and answer questions to the best of my knowledge up to that date…

Please don't paste ChatGPT or BARD answers as HN comments in general? In this specific case, no, LLMs don't reliably know about themselves. They're trained on a big corpus of internet text, then trained by rough reinforcement learning to say and not say certain things about themselves, then given a little more information about themselves in system prompts.

If you’re right, then this is probably the best proof that I’ve seen that ChatGPT isn’t even remotely conscious.
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