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OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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It’s also pretty useless at understanding any page that’s even remotely complex. I asked it to tell me when the next baseball home game is so I can avoid traffic when going to the downtown library and it couldn’t answer even that basic question. The search results defaulted to the team’s official calendar but the day numbers were displayed as images so they could style them in the team’s font, making them invisible t…

ChatGPT seems to be able to parse images pretty well now. I wonder why they don't simply feed it a screencap of the rendered page instead of the html.

Takes much longer to make a screencap of an html page. Modern slow JS and many subresources coming from a slow server, combined with the fact there is no reliable signal to say a page is done loading, generally mean you won't be getting a screencap in less than about 10 seconds.

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Google search is dead.

I thought Google's given Bard access to the internet?? I guess people still don't think to use Bard over ChatGPT

My experience is different. I think Bard is giving better answers than chatgpt so I really use it daily even more than google search.

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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I've been relatively unimpressed with the ChatGPT browse mode. My problem with it is that it seems to run really obvious, naive searches. Most of the time I ask it something, then see what it's searching for and think "oh no, that's not going to return anything more useful than what I could have found myself". It's also pretty slow. I'm very much looking forward to having a search assistant which can go ahead and wad…

Have you tried phind.com? It even cites its sources.

Or perplexity.ai which I find better than phind. Faster, looks better, more features.

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Is there a complete list of ip addresses openai uses for scraping? I suppose they dont honour robots.txt, despite claiming to do so, and this may be one way to reliably block them.

I've seen no suggestion of them not honouring robots.txt...

I suspect that any case of them not honoring it is probably due to your site content being available on archive.org or common crawl or some other service.

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought Google's given Bard access to the internet?? I guess people still don't think to use Bard over ChatGPT

My experience is different. I think Bard is giving better answers than chatgpt so I really use it daily even more than google search.

Better than the free or the paid chatgpt?

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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The amount of sites I regularly use with ChatGPT that are blocking AI agents has increased to the point where this feature is not that useful for me anymore. I can only see that amount increasing.

I wonder if AI generated web pages block AI agents from indexing their content, like, one engine indexing the other's content in a loop until the amount of digital garbage is so gigantic that is the end of the information era, or how are we ever stopping this? What is our failsafe?

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Have you tried phind.com? It even cites its sources.

Or perplexity.ai which I find better than phind. Faster, looks better, more features.

Perplexity now requires dismissing 2 prompts before use, every single time. (Install their iOS app. Log in with Google.)

Re: OpenAI Finally Allows ChatGPT Complete Internet Access

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This time it's not scraping the internet (like a robot) but actually acting as a direct user agent for the human typing their prompt, so I wouldn't be against them ignoring robots.txt.

Wait, so a simple web scraper script has to comply with robots.txt. But if I want to completely ignore the robots.txt, I only have to make my script more complicated (ChatGPT)?

And make it complicated enough (a human) and no .txt can stop them!
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