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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by SirSavary »

loceng wrote: post #692
adrr wrote: post #578

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Also record low unemployment. 4.9% in 2022 set records. For comparison Canada’s average unemployment rate is 7.5% over the last 50 years. https://www.cicnews.com/2022/07/canadas-unemployment-rate-dr...

Please look at these numbers in depth - not how they're presenting them. Similarly, the majority of industry growth has been Federal jobs - from Grok: "Since Trudeau took office in 2015, the size of the federal public service has grown by approximately 43%. By March 31, 2024, the federal government's payroll included 367,772 employees, up from 257,034 in 2015." 43% increase; paid for by the public.

A 43% increase in federal jobs sounds big until you realize it’s ~110,000 positions over 9 years. For this to be the ‘majority of industry growth,’ Canada would need to have added just ~200,000 jobs in total since 2015. That’s laughably off—Canada typically adds hundreds of thousands of jobs annually. For context, Canada’s employment grew by ~2.7M jobs between 2015[1] and the end of 2024[2]. Federal job growth is a drop in that bucket, not the bucket itself.

[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/437730/employment-in-can... [2] https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/241206/dq241...

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by s1artibartfast »

cwillu wrote: post #727
s1artibartfast wrote: post #575

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the goal isn't even to entertain. It is to spend time on a page. It doesn't matter if you are frustrated, angry, or confused. just keep scrolling

The CBC doesn't have remotely the same pressure to expose eyeballs to advertising.

the link wasn't to CBC when I posted, but I'm sure they have OKMs about clicks and time on page.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by relaxing »

casenmgreen wrote: post #683
somedude895 wrote: post #570

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It's a low effort comment that doesn't add anything of value.

I mean, yes, it doesn't say much. But it is perhaps nice to read a simple sentiment, wishing well. I wasn't posting for upvotes, just expressing a feeling.

I applaud you for taking time to acknowledge the basic humanity of the situation.

Calling that low value is unfortunately on-brand for this crowd.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by rXoX »

a-priori wrote: post #295
catgary wrote: post #93

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I think it’s worth noting that the weekend before this, local residents of Ottawa had basically “stormed” one of the trucker convoy camps to unblock a road. There were genuine concerns that the residents of Ottawa were ready to take matters into their own hands, and it would be a bloodbath. Not to mention the blockade in Alberta where they were found with guns and a pipe bomb, with their communications indicating the…

I was a resident of downtown Ottawa during this period. It was bad. We had a young kid and didn't feel even safe walking her to a park, because the route crossed over convoy lines and there were all sorts of stories of harassment and assaults. We didn't even experience the worst of it; lots of people dealt with truck horns blaring 24/7, but at least our street at least was kept clear as an emergency route. We put up…

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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by 11101010001100 »

kridsdale1 wrote: post #618
dfdx wrote: post #526

A friend of mine recently finished his engineering PhD at the University of Toronto. He received employment offers from an American firm and a Canadian firm. The Canadian firm offered a total compensation package worth 80,000 CAD (~55,000 USD); the American firm offered him nearly 275,000 USD.

This was my experience too, scaled back in time to when I graduated in 2010 from UBC.

For reference, Harper was PM in 2010.

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

jpalawaga wrote: post #742
joshl32532 wrote: post #726

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In this case, it's definitely Trudeau's administration fault by flooding the Canadian job market with immigrants, which lowers job compensation and increasing housing cost.

low salaries in canada existed long before trudeau and will exist long after.

They've always been lower, but it was always 20%ish lower. Now it's like 50%.

And in the meantime, housing prices have gone up exponentially. Housing in greater Toronto is more expensive than the Bay Area, but the compensation is far far lower.

I'm not one to blame Trudeau personally, or even immigration per se. I think there's a multitude of factors. But it's best not to deny the situation, which is that in the last few years there's been... problems... in the Canadian SWE labour market.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by clwg »

JellyBeanThief wrote: post #748
clwg wrote: post #723

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Perhaps bad phrasing, it is an emotional issue having lived through it. I like to think that I don't live in a country ruled by a King but rather in a community of citizens who have collectively agreed on a way of doing things. This includes the right to express dissent against other citizens to whom we have delegated certain decision-making responsibilities. A permit isn't about seeking permission; it's about ensuri…

> A permit isn't about seeking permission Then they need to be renamed.

In Canada, we have the inherent right to assemble as granted by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms; therefore, I don’t need permission, which is discretionary.

Permits in this context represent authorization that establishes procedures for exercising this right on property administered by government, which ensure things like public safety without infringing on any rights or freedoms of the protestors or other citizens.

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Post by parineum »

HappySweeney wrote: post #562
mbrumlow wrote: post #328

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So the threat of violence against a non violent protest resulted in the non violent protestors being labeled terrorist and justified all the action that followed?

95dB air-horn for 16 to 20 hours per day is not non-violent.

How close do you have to be for it to be 95dB?

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

energy123 wrote: post #760
joshl32532 wrote: post #726

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In this case, it's definitely Trudeau's administration fault by flooding the Canadian job market with immigrants, which lowers job compensation and increasing housing cost.

Lump of labor fallacy. The pie is not fixed.

It's not the quantity / size of pie. It's the fact that the Canadian labour market has explicit "escape valves" for "skilled labour is too expensive" built in as a policy plank in the form of the LMIA and TFW process.

They are tools that "industry" lobbied for expansion of, and got. Have persisted through both Conservative and Liberal governments for decades, but was expanded markedly under both Harper and (especially) Trudeau.

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Post by jyscao »

digging wrote: post #282
jyscao wrote: post #114

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One could endlessly go on about the economy/COL, immigration, crumbling healthcare, housing crisis, far-left ideology going mainstream, etc. But I could frame it much simpler than that - Canada, at least in cities of modest sizes and up, is rapidly transitioning from a high-trust to a low-trust society. An anecdote: my sister is more than 10 years younger than me, she's currently attending the same university as I di…

> One could endlessly go on... Yet, apparently one will instead sidestep the discussion entirely. Frankly the more you've tried to answer the question the less you actually answer it... I don't see how "rapidly transitioning from a high-trust to a low-trust society" or "she's got 2 bikes stolen ... this would be inconceivable to me during my time living in the same town" reflect failures in Canadian government at all…

If you know you know, and clearly plenty of people who read my original comment do.

Judging from your other comments, you're either wilfully ignorant or actively dishonest, can't tell which, and frankly don't care either way. All I know is it'd be a complete waste of time to try to convince you.

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