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I think the distinction with the Chinese models (or with any of the other models) is that they aren't particularly vocal and obviously active about their politics. I don't see how political commentary about Musk's is somehow forbidden when the man constantly reminds everyone about his political position and is simultaneously the face of his companies and obvious beneficiary. Furthermore, he's also very obviously inte…
> I think the distinction with the Chinese models (or with any of the other models) is that they aren't particularly vocal and obviously active about their politics Try asking Chinese models about Taiwan independence or Falun Gong or the Dalai Lama or Tiananmen or the Hong Kong national security law or ASIO’s investigations into Chinese interference in Australian politics
Grok 4.5
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Re: Grok 4.5
#762So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here. I’m using GLM at the moment, it’s Chinese and backed by god knows who, and no one cares. I really wanted to see what the experts thought of new Grok tech and how the model compares etc. I wish I could turn off the non-technical comments somehow, could literally just go to reddit if I want to see garbage like this. Am I supposed to get emotional every time I…
People just need to get off the internet, go outside touch some grass and realize you are being ginned up by bad actors on both sides. Outside of your bubble most people are actually still nice.
Re: Grok 4.5
#763So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here. I’m using GLM at the moment, it’s Chinese and backed by god knows who, and no one cares. I really wanted to see what the experts thought of new Grok tech and how the model compares etc. I wish I could turn off the non-technical comments somehow, could literally just go to reddit if I want to see garbage like this. Am I supposed to get emotional every time I…
Re: Grok 4.5
#764So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here. I’m using GLM at the moment, it’s Chinese and backed by god knows who, and no one cares. I really wanted to see what the experts thought of new Grok tech and how the model compares etc. I wish I could turn off the non-technical comments somehow, could literally just go to reddit if I want to see garbage like this. Am I supposed to get emotional every time I…
Agree 100%, it's bordering on a mental illness, any mention of Elon or related tech elicits emotional posts unrelated to the tech being discussed. It's clearly biased as Anthropic and OpenAI have blood on their hands but they get a pass. I put it down to weak minded/credulous people who inhaled the left wing legacy media campaign wholesale without a critical thought.
Re: Grok 4.5
#765So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here. I’m using GLM at the moment, it’s Chinese and backed by god knows who, and no one cares. I really wanted to see what the experts thought of new Grok tech and how the model compares etc. I wish I could turn off the non-technical comments somehow, could literally just go to reddit if I want to see garbage like this. Am I supposed to get emotional every time I…
Its more depressing to see that we have such a low morality, that it apperenly doesn't matter what you do as long as you make great tech? My philosophy is, that the better i have it, the more responsibliltiy I can/have to carry. People in tech are above avg successful and we have a thinking job. I would imagine that our world would be better if more people would care if they see a Tesla and feel a little bit bad. Yes…
Re: Grok 4.5
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People give them money because of the moral stance. They are either actively fine with the CSAM or just don't care.
Give me an alternative that isn’t trying to shove left wing ideology down my throat and I’ll use that. So far, only xAI makes any attempt to be neutral in its answers.
Unless you also believe the neutral view is earth being half flat and half round.
Re: Grok 4.5
#767Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the distinction with the Chinese models (or with any of the other models) is that they aren't particularly vocal and obviously active about their politics. I don't see how political commentary about Musk's is somehow forbidden when the man constantly reminds everyone about his political position and is simultaneously the face of his companies and obvious beneficiary. Furthermore, he's also very obviously inte…
> I think the distinction with the Chinese models (or with any of the other models) is that they aren't particularly vocal and obviously active about their politics Try asking Chinese models about Taiwan independence or Falun Gong or the Dalai Lama or Tiananmen or the Hong Kong national security law or ASIO’s investigations into Chinese interference in Australian politics
It depends "where" you're asking. In most cases (like with DeepSeek or Z.AI models) it will gladly tell you everything (though it can hallucinate sometimes; I guess they try to filter out such data out of the training datasets) if it's not deployed on Chinese servers and you control the system prompt. So, I guess that these guardrails - probably built into the system prompt - are deployed only on China-controlled inference servers, outside of them models are pretty much talkative.
Well, at least that was my experience. Maybe yours is different for some reasons (like temperature settings or something else), I don't know.
Re: Grok 4.5
#768So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here. I’m using GLM at the moment, it’s Chinese and backed by god knows who, and no one cares. I really wanted to see what the experts thought of new Grok tech and how the model compares etc. I wish I could turn off the non-technical comments somehow, could literally just go to reddit if I want to see garbage like this. Am I supposed to get emotional every time I…
Its more depressing to see that we have such a low morality, that it apperenly doesn't matter what you do as long as you make great tech? My philosophy is, that the better i have it, the more responsibliltiy I can/have to carry. People in tech are above avg successful and we have a thinking job. I would imagine that our world would be better if more people would care if they see a Tesla and feel a little bit bad. Yes…
Re: Grok 4.5
#769So depressing to read the non-stop political comments here. I’m using GLM at the moment, it’s Chinese and backed by god knows who, and no one cares. I really wanted to see what the experts thought of new Grok tech and how the model compares etc. I wish I could turn off the non-technical comments somehow, could literally just go to reddit if I want to see garbage like this. Am I supposed to get emotional every time I…
My only complaint is that people have been tricked into thinking complaining online is taking action . The complaints are the equivalent to shouting at the TV.
Re: Grok 4.5
#770Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agree 100%, it's bordering on a mental illness, any mention of Elon or related tech elicits emotional posts unrelated to the tech being discussed. It's clearly biased as Anthropic and OpenAI have blood on their hands but they get a pass. I put it down to weak minded/credulous people who inhaled the left wing legacy media campaign wholesale without a critical thought.
Maybe it's because he's a fascist?