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Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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One of the reasons for mobile apps is that adblocking is disabled. Explains why Reddit promotes it so much. Similarly, wrapping websites like Discord or Slack in Electron also gives the website owners full telemetry and tracking that they can't get in a tech savvy browser. Would an always on VPN, a remote pihole be the only way for privacy?

I found NextDNS to be relatively convenient and easy to set up even for a lay audience. Definitely easier than a PiHole or a custom `dnsmasq` setup, and it offers mobile configuration client apps. What I do not know is if it will work also when apps begin using DNS over HTTPS… I suppose not?

I personally use doh_blacklist with around 170ips, where I block outgoing traffic for known (publicly and not so) internet reachable doh resolvers. There is no problem(+) - everything works perfectly.

ipset create blist_doh hash:ip hashsize 1024

for ip in `cat /etc/bin/blist_doh.txt`; do ipset add blist_doh "$ip"; done

iptables -A -m set --match-set blist_doh dst -j DROP -m comment --comment 'SPY:all ext DoH BLOCKED'

Still, as of 2021, doh rule is around 2% traffic logged compared to my other rule, where I simply block outgoing 53/udp (except my resolver). a LOT of your devices ignore your dhcp dns settings and try to circumvent it going directly to shady 8.8.8.8 etc.

(*) you shall every few months check and update it.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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> The best you can do is use server side UA inspection No, the best you can do is to stop caring. A distant second is this "server side UA inspection." Whatever that means exactly.

Server side useragent inspection

Yes. I clearly know the literal meaning. I assume this means trusting client-supplied strings. That's not an inspection.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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The reason Firefox is higher is probably because it's the easiest one to block ads on mobile. Most people I know who use Firefox on mobile do so specifically to have ublock origin. I personally use chrome on desktop but Firefox on mobile.

Funnily enough, Privacy Badger is an excellent ad blocker. Turns out 99% of ads come from tracking domains. You'd think the ad people would split up the tracking from actually showing the ad, but apparently it's not worth showing an impression without also tracking the user.

Exactly right. Imagine you have a list of 10,000 people who have visited your website whom you want to target with ads. You don't want to show anybody your ad more than ten times. You're using an ad network that reaches ten million people. Your ad will only appear when the trackers tell you that someone is on your target list.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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post #333

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The reason Firefox is higher is probably because it's the easiest one to block ads on mobile. Most people I know who use Firefox on mobile do so specifically to have ublock origin. I personally use chrome on desktop but Firefox on mobile.

With so many options for Chromium-based browsers, is there a reason why you still use Chrome? I personally use Edge on desktop and iPhone because I give so much data to Google by using a gmail account that it lightens the load a little bit to use something other than Chrome. It functions the same as far as I see and it runs all the same plugins.

I use Brave and am very happy with it

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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I wonder how long it'll be before they phase out the old site. For now I still use it because it's significantly faster and easier to use, but I strongly suspect they want me on their new site.

As long as reddit's API still exists, someone will make a site that recreates the old reddit experience.

I wonder how long they'll keep the API live with so few restrictions and fees. Twitter makes huge amounts of money from selling the kind of data that PushShift gives away for free from Reddit.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Why is this even at the front page of HN? I give them credit for the brilliant marketing. This is an ad disguised as an article targeting the "tech savvy" by bundling HN and Reddit (a truth + a lie makes the statement more true), a common clickbait tactic > This makes sense especially considering how difficult it is to install an adblocker on Chrome, the most popular browser on mobile devices. Nope, it is really easy…

The headline is the perfect anti-Google HN-clickbait, and it is quite misleading. These people just run any ad-blocker, they mostly all block Google Analytics as a side-effect. The majority of those 58% probably don't care about GA specifically.

To be honest, I've used Brave for a long time and I didn't realize it blocked GA.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Server side useragent inspection

Yes. I clearly know the literal meaning. I assume this means trusting client-supplied strings. That's not an inspection.

If you inspect in on the server it is an inspection.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Server side useragent inspection

Yes. I clearly know the literal meaning. I assume this means trusting client-supplied strings. That's not an inspection.

As opposed to client supplied string but with Javascript?

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

#709

Pihole (2M domains) + Firefox strict mode + uBlock Origin is what I do. Any other tips? Used to have privacy badger too but it breaks too many sites for me.

Disable JavaScript by default (try uBlock's advanced mode).

If I do this, the internet basically becomes useless for me to be honest. Many useful sites breaks for me (shopping, banking etc)
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