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Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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There is a German movie about the system that is used to gather TV ratings. It's a special box that some users get which reports what they are watching. Small sample size goes into a big statistic (not sure how accurate the portrayal of the system in the movie is). These boxes are given to the people who pay the German public TV fee, which excludes i.e. students (they don't have to pay) and some other groups. This gr…

"large scale AdWords fraud." Be carefull - fraud is a crime. But I am under no obligation to provide AdWords any data, let alone true and reliable data. Considering the tracking and spying, and my legitimate interest in privacy, there is no room for fraud argument here. PS: this would be probably a Hoax

It's not actual fraud. You're not bound by the terms of service of ad providers. Your device is actually sending requests to the ads, which they are counting themselves to determine payment rates. If it's fraud to send ad impressions to sites I like without visiting them, it could be fraud to deny ad impressions to sites that I do visit (with my ad blocker on.)

If the sites set it up themselves, it's fraud. If you conspire with the sites to set it up, it's fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud. But if I'm prosecuted for the crime of not actually looking at ads I request, that's just a judge with an agenda. Whether it went one way or another at every layer of appeal would probably be a coin flip, though.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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You know a connected TV / set-top box is on a channel but you don't know how many / which persons in the house is in front of it.

How long until they start putting cameras in them and doing facial recognition?

Some sort of localised motion sensor would probably be sufficient to tell you how many people are watching without invading too much on people's privacy. You wouldn't know the age, but you already have ton of information by knowing the address and the subscriber already.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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> Explains why Reddit promotes it so much It must be very disheartening to work on reddit's mobile site. Not only is it deliberately made a miserable experience by forcing you through AMP via Google and insisting you "continue in browser" every time, but then you're greeted with a banner that outright says "this page is better in the app".

> It must be very disheartening to work on reddit's mobile site. You can probably cross "mobile" out of this entirely. Reddit have spent three years now building sites that are worse in every way than the decade old junker it's trying to replace.

Agreed. I don't mind the new layout but it is still amazing that after years of this new layout that at least once a week I go to reddit and it can't load comments. I'm not a developer so maybe there is a valid reason but as a user it just seems ridiculous that the site can't do its main function reliably.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Can I evade tracking by disgusing my traffic as bot traffic? Sounds like a startup idea.

Oh I suspect you'll have a decent amount of sites not serving you ads or analytics if you put "googlebot" or "chrome lighthouse" in your UA.

If you use googlebot you’ll likely just get blocked altogether.

Using Lighthouse might be an interesting experiment though.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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I expected these numbers to be higher. However, an even more interesting metric is the 88% block in Firefox. Firefox may not have a great market share, but based on these numbers it's market share may very well be eight times higher than your analytics report. This can change the argument of "it's only 3% of our users so we don't need to test on FF" to "it's a quarter of our user base, we should at least test it", de…

> The best you can do is use server side UA inspection No, the best you can do is to stop caring. A distant second is this "server side UA inspection." Whatever that means exactly.

Server side useragent inspection

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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This is good to hear. I didn't think the percentages would be that high. "Data driven design" is kinda overrated anyway. It's better to actually listen to your users. Stats don't show what people think, and they're often tweaked to show what people want to see.

"Listening to your users" is just a more manual form of data gathering though. Also, it's not like "hearing what you want to hear" has been invented by statisticians, that is super easy to do when talking to users as well. Some of the problems in talking to users: - people will often tell you what they think you want to hear rather than what they really think. (Very few users would ever tell an interviewing dev that…

"Listening to your users" is a voluntary exchange with your users, not compelling data from them. The difference between the two is critical.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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You can install ublock on mobile firefox too.

I wish you could install umatrix, and it had a decent mobile UI. Umatrix has just transformed the way I browse the web and if anything it has educated me at the same time. I like seeing that this random site has about 2^5 different domain names contacted, ranging from ad-junk to CDNs. It tells me quite a lot about its developer. Sites with one hostname, minimally awful JS and few-to-none XHR requests get a thumbs up.…

> I like seeing that this random site has about 2^5 different domain names contacted

You can see that in uBlock Origin already. The summary info has the number of domains connected and if you click on "more" you have the details, just like on desktop. You can also block JavaScript altogether for a particular site.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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I am amazed at how non-techy people use the internet. I teach college and I will sometimes have students go to some web site. I am amazed at how few use adblocking and just accept all the ads and popups and overlays and crap. Even more than that, I will see them using something like google docs and google will put an overlay for some new feature and they don't click the X to close it. They just type away with that overlay in the corner. That drives me crazy. I don't know how they do it.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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You can install ublock on mobile firefox too.

On Android, yes. On iOS you can’t, but at least you’ve still got ETP and Firefox Focus’s ad blocking.

You can use adblockers on ios aswell, I use adguard. It works for youtube ads which is nice.
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