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I wouldn't say all the Rust community is toxic. Then again, I'm not sure which Rust community he's referring to, I'm sure there are some toxic ones out there.
Ladybird and Serenity have a policy of not allowing any sort of expression of or reference to someone's sexuality or gender identity, as this is deemed "divisive" or "politicising". Rust does... not have that.
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I wouldn't say all the Rust community is toxic. Then again, I'm not sure which Rust community he's referring to, I'm sure there are some toxic ones out there.
There was a big fight on Twitter last month because of a comment he made 3 years ago ( https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814 ). I think that's closely related.
Using Swift outside of Apple ecosystem seems like a bad idea, other platform are subparts.
I totally get using Swift in this context considering their heavy emphasis on C++. From my personal experience, Swift still feels like the early days of Open source .NET/Mono. You will definitely experience the growing pains of being an early adopter of the language. The fact that JetBrains killed AppCode in Dec of 2022 7 years after Swift went Open Source is telling to me that getting the traction outside of the App…
For example, Avalonia implemented Vulkan back-end some time ago, no C or C++ required: https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia/pull/12737
Even then, you are absolutely not married to any of these GUI frameworks, but if are targeting desktop, then Avalonia offers great user experience.
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It doesn't matter if only a portion is toxic, because that portion can easily poison the well all on their own for everybody.
Especially if that portion is in the official nonprofit associated with the language.
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Because the same also applies to clang, and contrary to what people think, Apple like every other big tech, is only as nice to FOSS as they need to be for their own purposes. Same applies to all C and C++ compiler vendors, that have replaced their proprietary compilers (there are plenty more than just clang/gcc/msvc), with LLVM. Such is the freedom of Apache/MIT/BSD style licenses.
Swift's LLVM fork is open-source, just not upstreamed. No Free Software license requires forks to upstream their changes. https://github.com/swiftlang/llvm-project
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This is such a weird thread, sure it's a nit but grammatically a person of unknown sex should be either "he or she" or "they." And the latter is by far the preferred form by English writers regardless of political affiliation. It didn't become a political thing until Andreas made it political. It would have taken two seconds to be like "+1 Good catch man, merged."
It could be an age thing. When I was taught grammar 40 plus years ago, for someone of indeterminate sex, “he” was taught as always appropriate, “he or she” was a somewhat clunky alternative that was situationally appropriate where you were stressing the gender neutrality, and “they” was just simply bad grammar which would get you bad marks. I’m honestly not sure when that changed.
What happened to jakt?
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It could be an age thing. When I was taught grammar 40 plus years ago, for someone of indeterminate sex, “he” was taught as always appropriate, “he or she” was a somewhat clunky alternative that was situationally appropriate where you were stressing the gender neutrality, and “they” was just simply bad grammar which would get you bad marks. I’m honestly not sure when that changed.
"They" as a gender neutral singular pronoun has never been bad grammar, and has been accepted in common use for many hundreds of years.
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002748.h...
(and even singular "themselves"!)
which puts to rest approximately every argument I've ever seen against it.
============================== Andreas Kling @awesomekling · 44m My general thoughts on Rust: - Excellent for short-lived programs that transform input A to output B - Clunky for long-lived programs that maintain large complex object graphs - Really impressive ecosystem - Toxic community ==============================
I think a lot of this is just rumors and maybe one or two high profile people. When I go to discord servers for rust and rust libraries, the help I get is as good as, if not better than support from companies I literally pay.