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Are the cameras "high-end"? Good for a phone, certainly. But compared to a real camera with a much bigger lens and sensor?
I make the superior picture with my camera but then it sits there on an SD card in the camera. I have to boot a desktop, hope the USB connection works today, find a folder, create and name a folder in the folder, copy the pictures there, find and open something to view and edit the images with, find and open something to upload the images. OR open the camera, take out th SD card, boot up a computer, plug the card int…
Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is coming to Android
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Yes, but governments are getting involved because governments always like increasing control and reducing freedom; the "major problem" is merely a pretext.
People are loosing their life savings
Most rules/laws don't actually stop problems, they just hide them.
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He's saying people at Google use iPhones. I don't know if that's true, but the times I've visited silicon valley I didnt see many android phones.
You're typically issued a corporate phone, it's the only phone that can open work email. You have a choice between an Android (something like a Pixel and a Samsung) and an iPhone, with some companies incentivising Androids with things like a faster upgrade cycle or more premium trims. The culture is split between having just the one free corporate phone and having two phones - one personal, one corporate.
Check the "socially inept tech roast show" - where people from those teams demonstrate their ignorance and hatered towards own products and users.
Since they dont use them, they dont see nor care about bugs.
Meanwhile if you work for a cola company and they catch you drinking competing product you will get fired (your contract bans you fron that). Same for many other products.
I understand using an Apple phone to learn what it does / its featurs, but those Android employees dont use Android at all. And it shows
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#674Sideloading is a neologism to scare users and lawmakers, it just means "Installing software" and should be a basic right. Also software installation in Android has been high friction for a while. Installing an APK on my phone is at least 10 clicks.
>Sideloading is a neologism to scare users and lawmakers, it just means "Installing software" and should be a basic right. No it's not. The term originated far before this debacle, and carries a meaningful distinction than just "installing". Specifically it means installing from a non-first party source. You might not agree the restriction should exist, or that even the concept of first party source at all, but for c…
You are the first party. If I own the device, I am the first party.
The manufacturer is now a second or third party after you own the device, and for most ideas, a third party, especially if they don't truly offer real support of the device.
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#675Google's long term strategy with Android is baffling to me. Apple has had better mobile hardware for years. Apple has higher consumer trust. Apple has better app selection (for most people). Apple has been increasingly implementing the core features that differentiate Android devices, like USB-C and RCS. Every Android user lost to the increasing iOS market share is another customer Google has to pay exorbitant fees t…
"Google's long term strategy with Android is baffling to me. " How does one know there is a long-term strategy History has shown that so-called "tech" companies often act in a reactionary manner^1 1. Often, the act is of one of copying what someone else has done. Other times it might be response to regulation One could argue Android itself was a reaction to iOS This is one example of the reactionary copying phenomeno…
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And why are those not sufficient for Android?
This is not a theoretical issue. It’s a major problem is several countries, the governments are getting involved.
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This isn't about pure revenue, it's about scams. Android has a reputation for being unsafe precisely because of sideloading (as well as low Google Play fees, looser app review, accessibility services and remote access). This policy is bad for us HNers, but objectively good for the 95+% of people who will never sideload a legitimate Android app, but are extremely likely to get caught by scammers. The heavy US skew of…
The Play Store was riddled with scam apps last time I used it. Be it fake apps that pretend to do something while doing at best nothing ("system optimizers", "antivirus" apps) over user data mining apps (often targeted at children or young people) to hundreds of clones of commercial or open source apps - you do not have to search very long to find the real scams. Making sideloading harder has only one goal - growing…
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This isn't about pure revenue, it's about scams. Android has a reputation for being unsafe precisely because of sideloading (as well as low Google Play fees, looser app review, accessibility services and remote access). This policy is bad for us HNers, but objectively good for the 95+% of people who will never sideload a legitimate Android app, but are extremely likely to get caught by scammers. The heavy US skew of…
I can say that my parents have never once complained about a scam on their phone caused by sideloading. In fact I don’t know anyone among any of my friends or family that have ever had that issue. Every last one of my non-technical friends and family have been hit by spyware on their windows devices. To say I’m extremely skeptical that this has anything to do with protecting users is an understatement. In fact I’m wi…
1. Live in a country where Android is much more popular than iOS?
2. Live in an environment where piracy is rampant?
3. Are used to sideloading apps to get free movies / soccer?
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I don't see any iOS advantage with the apps anymore. That was maybe true in the very beginning, during the gold rush time of the app store. But not since then. In which category are there better iOS apps? Browsers? No, strictly worse. Youtube app? No, worse. Texting? Worse or equal (Whatsapp). Podcast client? I assume worse, since there is no Antenna Pod. Social media apps? The iOS variants of those apps are afaik in…
iOS apps are truly sandboxed, they cannot carry out stunts like this: https://localmess.github.io/
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For context, I'm a long-time iPhone user, who switched to a Pixel 8a about 18 months ago. > Apple has had better mobile hardware for years. I can't say I noticed a difference in quality when switching. Maybe some people can, but for me it was just a different, but still well-made phone. > Apple has higher consumer trust. I can't speak for consumers in general, but this is certainly no longer the case for me. I also u…
I’ve been an iPhone owner for a while, but recently was required to get an Android phone to be a secondary work device. I got a Pixel 10 Pro—- brand-new, Google’s flagship device—- and within about a week there was a rattling noise from the camera module any time the phone moved. The consensus online appears to be “oh, yeah, that’s the OIS module, you have to expect it, they all do that”. Well, iPhones also have OIS…