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I have been using this since it was “gmail for your domain” and have a number of old addresses I’d like to keep for history but am unwilling to pay $6 a month for, not to mention many friends having long neglected addresses I’m sure they’d like to keep.
This is an affront in several ways. 1) Apparently bait and switch is fair play now? The fact that it took years for the hook to be applied makes it no less wrong. 2) Apparently we cannot buy software anymore. I don't want 90% of upgrades but they force me to buy them as "subscriptions" now. How many do you have now that virtual monopolies are converting from buy one copy of software to "subscribe only"? Google Apps i…
BTW I run a 16 core home server with 10 tb of storage accessible over Comcast home edition for the cost of electricity. At the risk of sounding old and idealistic, isn't this what the Internet was supposed to be? Isn't this where the idealists among Web3 proponents are headed?
I don't think you sound old and idealistic, but I am _for sure_ old and idealistic, so...
I am grandfathered in. I don't actually use the account for much these days, but I have a few things like YouTube channels, YouTube premium (+ music), analytics, Android store purchases and bunch more things running through it.
Sure I can use aliases for the domain or just set the mails go to a different provider, but outside of the mails I am now stuck and need to figure out what to do since there are no migration options available. Probably means I'll have to nuke everything and setup from scratch (for the things that don't allow setting a new admin).
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> In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is jarring. For me, this raises the obvious question. How long a notice period is long enough? Six months? Eight? A year? Five years? A decade? I think we can all agree that a decade would be an excessive and unreasonable expectation. > By the same token, people have been using free Gmail accounts fo…
> Which is to say incredibly hostile because people have come to view free Gmail accounts as a basic public service for which no payment will ever be required under any circumstances. which is called entitlement. And i'm seeing more and more of this sense of entitlement as more and more people (esp. young people) being exposed to the internet - and this seeps into their other lives offline.
As such, they have no justifiable reason not to expect user reactions reeking of entitlement.
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SES for outgoing works pretty nicely, I don't think I ran into any gotchas. You can use SES for inbound email receipt as well, but unfortunately there's no POP3/IMAP service (emails just get stored in an S3 bucket). However you can use a Lambda to forward inbound email to a personal email account: https://github.com/arithmetric/aws-lambda-ses-forwarder
Thanks! Your solution may be best for usability. Researching further I found another solution that is perhaps best for privacy: https://github.com/markushinz/aws-ses-pop3-server SES -> S3 -> aws-ses-pop3-server -> desktop client with POP3 and SMTP Using this option, email is only really usable from a single device, but it avoids sharing private emails with yet another cloud, especially a free cloud that would share e…
1. List email files in S3
2. For each file, download into a local maildir-style directory, then delete original
3. Use `mutt -f ./maildir` to browse
Simply point your MX records to our server, then email can be forward to your personal gmail/protonmail.
I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…
I switched to Fastmail about 6 months ago after a decade on Google Apps. Yes, it’s paid, but I like it.
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You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? I'm all about Google being evil and all that, but spending valuable aggression on this seems a bit excessive.. The Google Takeout system gives you all of your email in a format you might be able to import into another system?
> You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? It’s easy to paint customers as frightful moaners, but that’s a surefire way to lose customers, or at least alienate them. Google’s Reader debacle comes to mind. In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is…
Years later and I still don't use Google (except for search and sometimes maps) because of Reader.
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> In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is jarring. For me, this raises the obvious question. How long a notice period is long enough? Six months? Eight? A year? Five years? A decade? I think we can all agree that a decade would be an excessive and unreasonable expectation. > By the same token, people have been using free Gmail accounts fo…
> Which is to say incredibly hostile because people have come to view free Gmail accounts as a basic public service for which no payment will ever be required under any circumstances. which is called entitlement. And i'm seeing more and more of this sense of entitlement as more and more people (esp. young people) being exposed to the internet - and this seeps into their other lives offline.
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You can set up an email server to receive mail typically (assuming your ISP doesn't block it). For outbound mail, you can create a dedicated regular gmail address, and instruct it to accept sending emails out with an alternate email/domain in the From address and set up all outbound mail to route through that. (I haven't tried this yet, but it looks like all the pieces are there under the "send mail as" setting on gm…
This works, but when people receive your emails, they'll show up as "From: yourname@example.com via gmail.com"