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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

basisword wrote: post #597
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #573

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You don't have to click: Launchpad is available via an unmodified F4, so it's a single button press to bring up instantly, no matter what you're doing. You don't have to "page through a giant iPhone screen", you can type and select. I used to use it all the time, without ever reaching for the mouse to do so. Launchpad also let you change the order of app icons and group them into pages and folders; I don't think the…

Interesting. I've never had any issues using Spotlight to search/open apps. For your use case unmodified F4 will bring up Spotlight now where you can type. If you want more precision unmodified F4 followed by CMD+1 will allow you to search only apps.

> For your use case unmodified F4 will bring up Spotlight now where you can type.

Yes, this is what I've been doing during the beta, and it's far less useful than Launchpad IME so far.

> If you want more precision unmodified F4 followed by CMD+1 will allow you to search only apps.

It looks like I had previously done so, and now the setting is 'stuck'. I.e. it's the default view — I can still go 'up' to search across stuff, but F4 takes me to an app launcher by default, so that's one drawback eliminated (thanks).

As an aside, I've learnt just now while testing this that F4 has an awkward asymmetrical input buffer. You can open+close instantly with two quick presses, but the same does not work to close+open. I'm not really complaining so much about this, just mentioning it!

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by yesnomaybe »

rvrb wrote: post #144
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

It was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. After trying out the preview for a month, the writing was on the wall, and I began the process of switching to a Thinkpad with Linux. I am now fully off macOS for the first time in 20 years of being an Apple die hard. I could use a lot of emotionally loaded words to describe how I feel about this release, but the long and short of it is that I am no longer the targ…

In the same boat. After like 15 years I had enough. I've started de-Apple'ing my life in 2024. Still run M1 Pro Mac from work, which is great. 2 days ago I've finally ordered all the parts for a Linux PC, high spec. Not for gaming or so, just for compute. I'm soooo looking forward to the freedom that this will bring. The stuff that I already run on Linux, the distros are all great. I love Gnome for how it looks and KDE for how seamless it works. The new PC will let me tinker and try and hop and swap like I could never dream of for so many years.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by michaelanckaert »

heavyset_go wrote: post #125
12_throw_away wrote: post #79

I swear I don't usually complain about UI styling updates, because it's usually not a big deal - but this looks really, really bad [1]. It's less functional with bizarre transparency choices destroying legibility, and big rounded corners taking up more dead space. And stylistically, the layouts just look unbalanced and amateurish (It reminds me of what happens when I attempt to do CSS layouts). Most Linux desktops un…

Windows Aero is back

oooh, nice burn ^^

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by yesnomaybe »

ksec wrote: post #578
rvrb wrote: post #144

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It was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. After trying out the preview for a month, the writing was on the wall, and I began the process of switching to a Thinkpad with Linux. I am now fully off macOS for the first time in 20 years of being an Apple die hard. I could use a lot of emotionally loaded words to describe how I feel about this release, but the long and short of it is that I am no longer the targ…

I have no where to go. I want to move away from iPhone, but Pixel is not available in my place, and Google doesn't seems to care about distribution. Nor does it do enough with its SoC development. There aren't anything come close on Laptop. And Windows or Linux aren't exactly in good shape either. I have no where to run. And I have wished for a third option for a very very long time.

You just move away from them on your computer. Just keep the iphone. It's a minor device. That's what I plan on doing. If I get fed up with my iphone, I also have nowhere to go. so will reduce usage. Sideloading gets more and more difficult everywhere.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by viraptor »

derefr wrote: post #511
viraptor wrote: post #293

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Because I vaguely remember that one icon I use every other month, but can't recall the name. The icons are also ordered by installation time, so it's easy to jump to the most recent ones. I use it rarely, but sometimes I'm happy it's there.

> The icons are also ordered by installation time, so it's easy to jump to the most recent ones. If I had this need, it wouldn’t even occur to me to solve it with Launchpad; I would just go to /Applications in Finder and sort by “Date Added”. (Which is a non-default column, but a very helpful one, so the series of gestures to enable it for a given folder is almost reflexive to me now.)

That's: 1 get the menu, 2 Finder, 3 go to applications, 4 View > Show View Options, 5 sort by popup, 6 choose date added, 7 actually look for the app.

Compared to: 1 - 4-finger pinch, 2 look for the app.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by eloisant »

I can't remember the last time I was excited for a macOS release. This time again there is nothing I'm looking forward in this new release.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by artk42 »

If there are enough OGs, they should recall Windows XP with all those bells and whistles AND those life-saving switch to "Windows Classic" that survived next three generations of Windows.

I personally pray for that "MacOS classic" switch... It's sad to enter that decay era for Apple where every next software upgrade for the device feels effectively as a hardware downgrade.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by andrepd »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmWOtf4Ziso

Look how far we've fallen.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by notsydonia »

Had such a bad experience with Sonoma, multiple micro-glitches that stole time and focus, that I dropped back to Ventura and have been avoiding updates ever since. The weird thing is that despite numerous bugs being logged all over the place, the 'new features' updates from Apple OS didn't seem to address any of them. They were mostly weird gimmicky new add-ons that don't mean anything to a power-user.

I might be interested in trying Tahoe if they'd undone whatever the awful policy is that puts a tonne of unwanted apps and desktop pics etc into your desktop that cannot be removed. I don't want Apple News, the clock in the menu bar and even Airplay - I purchased the computer, why can't I have what I want on it without compulsory apps from Apple?

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by andrepd »

kminehart wrote: post #258
rvrb wrote: post #227

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Fedora Silverblue is the closest feeling to the macOS experience I fell in love with that I’ve had on Linux in, well, ever. Very happy with it on my desktop and laptop. It’s not perfect but it is less imperfect than modern macOS has become. Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however.

> Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however. It doesn't exist at the moment. :\ I would pay 2x the price of a macbook for a linux laptop with the same hardware quality. The battery life and power/efficiency of my m4 pro is insane. It's so good that it's really hard to justify using anything else right now.

That's ridiculous. Thinkpads, Zephyrus G14, Framework, they all have performance, build quality, screens, battery, etc, comparable to a Mac.
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