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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by layer8 »

asadotzler wrote: post #123

Apple no longer cares about disabled people. Transparent UI, with controls sitting on top of arbitrary and changing content can NEVER be legible/discernible. Apple knows this, but fashion was more important than function and they decided, "who cares about disabled people, anyway." Microsoft learned this lesson back in the Vista era but Apple's charging ahead with this terrible set of changes that will literally disab…

It might be more accurate to say that they are giving non-disabled people an experience akin to that of disabled people. ;)

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by buraktamturk »

robin_reala wrote: post #24

A reminder, if you dislike the liquid glass look, that going into System settings / Accessibility / Display and toggling “Increase contrast” gets you a properly nice design with actual borders and solid backgrounds. 100% recommended.

This settings turns reduce transparency and it turns makes the menu bar gray, which looks horrible on a display on notch.

Is there any way to make it black? Like it appears on full screen applications? (apart from enabling the transparency together with a black wallpaper)

Currently even on dark mode it doesn't have a black background while reduce transparency is toggled on.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by burnt-resistor »

markdog12 wrote: post #107

Whoa, you can now search clipboard history. Go to Spotlight Search, Command+4. You'll get a list of entries, each with a copy button, and is searchable. Even shows the app it was copied in.

There were already a zillion and one apps (Maccy, ClipMenu, Jumpcut, Flycut, Alfred, ...) that provided this.

It'll be one of the first things I turn off whenever I get around to installing it ~6+ months from now.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by rvrb »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

It was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. After trying out the preview for a month, the writing was on the wall, and I began the process of switching to a Thinkpad with Linux. I am now fully off macOS for the first time in 20 years of being an Apple die hard. I could use a lot of emotionally loaded words to describe how I feel about this release, but the long and short of it is that I am no longer the target audience for Apple.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by tom_ »

w10-1 wrote: post #102
xnx wrote: post #28

I had thought Tahoe was the first version to drop Intel CPU support, but it looks like it will be the last version to still support Intel Macs.

does not support 2018 Mac mini

Apple have always seemed to drop support for hardware after 5-7 years, and then it's just a question of the last supported OS becoming itself unsupported too. My early 2015 Macbook Pro (new in April 2015) got as far as macOS Monterey (released October 2021) - and they stopped updating that in October 2024.

(I'm not digging through Wikipedia to double check but my previous 2 Macbooks Pro felt like they lasted about as long.)

It'll be interesting to see if they change this with the (presumably cleaner slate) Apple Silicon-based hardware.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by steeleyespan »

Looks like a niche Gnome theme that’s trying to clone a MacOS look.

I don’t think it’s that bad, nothing to get upset over - but yeah sort of like candy iMac aesthetic.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by diffrinse »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

So the Gnome 3 gang were ahead of their time?

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by GrumpyGoblin »

Widget appearance is tied to *icon appearance. Grumble grumble. I want clear for my widgets but default for my dock and other icons. Too bad so sad me I guess.

edit: replaced dock with icon, because it affects much more than just dock

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by bayindirh »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #137
bayindirh wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still find KDE superior in productivity, information density and "useful effects" category. Apple still has the best "get out of the way, be invisible" UI. Both are valid ways to approach to a problem, but I like KDE's batteries included, infinitely customizable way better.

I think KDE has the right spirit but its execution leaves something to be desired.

I don't think "defaults to windows-like" is a bad choice for newcomers.

I don't customize it heavily either. Move tray, clock and menus to the top, a-la GNOME2, leave taskbar at the bottom, both auto-hidden and narrower than screen.

Add four desktops as a 2x2 grid, re-enable old CTRL+ALT+$ARROW keyboard shortcuts, add a couple of usability effects with custom key combinations and two active corners, and I'm done.

Some applications (Konsole, KATE) get custom fonts and themes, but everything else is bog standard. Setting it up takes 30-ish minutes, and it's the same config for decades now. Probably because of sharpening the same tool and optimizing without knowing.

Then, I can just concentrate and fly on that environment.

Also, they have improved a lot in the small areas where it was lacking. You can use your system without a terminal if you want, plus Baloo works really well.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by etempleton »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

I have been running the beta from the beginning and they have improved quite a bit, but I am actually shocked they didn't delay Mac OS 26, because the design is so rough around the edges. Some of the larger aesthetic changes, such as the menu bar and the dock look good, but there is so much more that looks objectively awful.

1. the way window UI elements float in bubbles on the top over a white background is horrible. It looks amateurish.

2. Icons look low detail and blurry. At first I thought they were using low resolution placeholder icons, but no, the layered diffused glass effect just kind of translates to blurriness on many app icons.

3. The side bar, such as on Finder, just kind of floats there. That is fine and looks kind of neat on the Maps app as you can see some of the maps behind it, but on the Finder it is just a white bubble over top of a white background, which... is a choice.

4. The app launcher is gone, and replaced by Spotlight, which is worse.

I could go on. The point is it is bad and Apple should be embarrassed. I say that as someone who likes Apple products alot.

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