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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by joshstrange »

stouset wrote: post #70
joshstrange wrote: post #50

I'm normally on about 1 year delay on upgrading macOS for a multitude of reasons. I might not wait the full year but something else will have to force me to upgrade within the first few months. I'd heard from people who were running the betas that it's not ready and they are surprised Tahoe wasn't delayed. No way I'm upgrading any time soon to Apple's least cared for OS with a change this big (and this untested).

I'll be honest, I hear this every single time. But I've never delayed upgrading, and I've never regretted it. That's not to say every upgrade has been a strict improvement, but going back to my first Mac at 10.4 (Tiger) I've never wished I had stayed on an older version. We'll see how I feel after going to Tahoe, maybe this will be the one that breaks the trend. Windows, on the other hand…

You always have to be moving forward and I'll never say "I'll just stay on Sequoia for forever" but delaying a bit does make life easier. I know I'll eventually upgrade but being there day 1 or even month 1 is not something I'm interested in. There are never new features that outweigh sending my development workflows into disarray or dealing with broken apps.

There aren't always huge issues or huge time sinks but I'm happy to let other people be on the bleeding edge and I'll upgrade once the Github issues, blog posts, etc have been created/fixed so that when I upgrade I can easily find solutions to any remaining issues I might run into. Especially with Tahoe, I've heard that some apps are just broken, period, unless the developer makes (sometimes significant) changes to get the same functionality working again (that was working fine in Sequoia).

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by losvedir »

Is that call screening example a new feature or something I can do now that I didn't know about? That's something I've missed since switching from a Pixel to an iPhone last year.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by smcleod »

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release.

There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsistencies everywhere and - well, I could go on.

Basically the vibe I get from it is that they think their users are dumb - they won't care about things like this and that they want everything to look like a preschoolers tablet.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by chatmasta »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #10
ksec wrote: post #4

Any actual interesting changes under the hood other than UI changes? I cant remember the last time macOS release that actually brings any useful feature I use.

Spotlight got a major upgrade. It’s notably faster and deeply integrates with Shortcuts (letting you specify input variables, for example) among other things.

I’ve got Spotlight configured to index nothing but my applications (which is surprisingly difficult to configure and breaks with every major OS upgrade). Disabling all its default indexing has alleviated 95% of unexplainable CPU spikes and autocomplete pollution, so now I can finally use it for what it’s meant to be: the most overengineered fuzzy finder application launcher.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by airstrike »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #10
ksec wrote: post #4

Any actual interesting changes under the hood other than UI changes? I cant remember the last time macOS release that actually brings any useful feature I use.

Spotlight got a major upgrade. It’s notably faster and deeply integrates with Shortcuts (letting you specify input variables, for example) among other things.

Does "BetterDiscord" still show up as the first choice after you type "Disc"?

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by jedberg »

EarthLaunch wrote: post #53
pants2 wrote: post #27

How has Apple still not addressed many basic UI issues, such as menu bar icons disappearing behind the notch with no way to see them?

I take it as a sign of typical increasing corporate dysfunction. Obvious problems, some even easy and uncontroversial, don't get fixed. Why? The people who can fix them are not in control. The org must be very top-down. But Steve Jobs had a top down style, so what's the difference? Its: Using and caring about the product. It's top down direction with the people at the top not using/caring about the product. Presumabl…

Also if you had a majorly obvious bug, you could email steve@apple.com, which he would forward to a VP, who would be fired if it wasn't fixed ASAP. Knew a guy who lost his job that way, so it's not just a myth. Steve really was like that.

The wrath of Steve was a real thing that people feared.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by minimaxir »

jsheard wrote: post #16
ddtaylor wrote: post #14

This seems like a relatively minor update.

This is the last ever version with Intel support, right? That's a milestone of sorts.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do with my 2020 iMac in a year. I really want to be able to repurpose that 5k screen but Apple does not make it easy.

I might just leave it in perma-Windows Boot Camp.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by baq »

stouset wrote: post #70
joshstrange wrote: post #50

I'm normally on about 1 year delay on upgrading macOS for a multitude of reasons. I might not wait the full year but something else will have to force me to upgrade within the first few months. I'd heard from people who were running the betas that it's not ready and they are surprised Tahoe wasn't delayed. No way I'm upgrading any time soon to Apple's least cared for OS with a change this big (and this untested).

I'll be honest, I hear this every single time. But I've never delayed upgrading, and I've never regretted it. That's not to say every upgrade has been a strict improvement, but going back to my first Mac at 10.4 (Tiger) I've never wished I had stayed on an older version. We'll see how I feel after going to Tahoe, maybe this will be the one that breaks the trend. Windows, on the other hand…

You obviously haven't had firewall issues with EDR software a couple years ago or so.

I won't ever touch a .0 macos release again.

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