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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by FabHK »

etempleton wrote: post #150
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

I have been running the beta from the beginning and they have improved quite a bit, but I am actually shocked they didn't delay Mac OS 26, because the design is so rough around the edges. Some of the larger aesthetic changes, such as the menu bar and the dock look good, but there is so much more that looks objectively awful. 1. the way window UI elements float in bubbles on the top over a white background is horrible…

> 4. The app launcher is gone, and replaced by Spotlight, which is worse.

Do you mean the Launchpad? (I've never used it; but always use Spotlight to launch apps.)

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by lysace »

rcarmo wrote: post #211
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

I count four different corner radius sizes currently on my screen, which is maddening. Apple has a thing against people with OCD. Or taste. The thing is horribly wasteful of screen real estate, and as someone who’s been writing a Mac blog for over two decades, I am so happy I started using Fedora two years ago—GNOME has its flaws, but it looks nicer than Tahoe.

That's not possible. I saw a video yesterday where Greg Joswiak (SVP worldwide marketing at Apple) assured me that Apple has the best design team in the world.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by rcarmo »

Bondi_Blue wrote: post #139
ksec wrote: post #4

Any actual interesting changes under the hood other than UI changes? I cant remember the last time macOS release that actually brings any useful feature I use.

- Apple Sparse Image Format allows you to create virtualized disk images with a virtualized file format that can be formatted to any kind of file - Terminal.app now supports 24-bit color and powerline glyphs - Vehicle Motion Cues to reduce motion-sickness when in a moving vehicle

Good catch on the terminal. I missed that, and it might get me off Ghostty (I prefer to have less apps installed in general).

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by vehemenz »

dsego wrote: post #157
cyberax wrote: post #105

They didn't even fix the horizontal resizing in the Settings app. Sigh.

I still need to use the Scroll Reverser because the scroll direction (aka natural scrolling) can only be turned on or off globally, not per pointing device. I love natural scrolling on the trackpad, but it doesn't make sense on the mouse scroll wheel.

I use a Shortcut for this because it cuts down on the unnecessary apps. Hammerspoon.app would work too though.

  tell application "System Settings"
   activate
  end tell
  delay 0.1

  tell application "System Events"
   tell process "System Settings"
    click menu item "Trackpad" of menu "View" of menu bar 1
    delay 0.25
    click radio button 2 of tab group 1 of group 1 of group 2 of splitter group 1 of group 1 of window 1
    click checkbox "Natural scrolling" of group 1 of scroll area 1 of group 1 of group 2 of splitter group 1 of group 1 of window 1
    tell application "System Settings" to quit
   end tell
  end tell

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by reactordev »

lysace wrote: post #222
rcarmo wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I count four different corner radius sizes currently on my screen, which is maddening. Apple has a thing against people with OCD. Or taste. The thing is horribly wasteful of screen real estate, and as someone who’s been writing a Mac blog for over two decades, I am so happy I started using Fedora two years ago—GNOME has its flaws, but it looks nicer than Tahoe.

That's not possible. I saw a video yesterday where Greg Joswiak (SVP worldwide marketing at Apple) assured me that Apple has the best design team in the world.

Making the world a better place by rounding off all the hard edges including those edge cases…

If 12px won’t do, try 42

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by rcarmo »

hermitcrab wrote: post #178

Does anyone know what Qt 5 or Qt 6 applications look like on macOS Tahoe?

OpenSCAD and others look like they did even before Sequoia, with a small corner radius and older control spacing.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by rvrb »

rcarmo wrote: post #211
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

I count four different corner radius sizes currently on my screen, which is maddening. Apple has a thing against people with OCD. Or taste. The thing is horribly wasteful of screen real estate, and as someone who’s been writing a Mac blog for over two decades, I am so happy I started using Fedora two years ago—GNOME has its flaws, but it looks nicer than Tahoe.

Fedora Silverblue is the closest feeling to the macOS experience I fell in love with that I’ve had on Linux in, well, ever. Very happy with it on my desktop and laptop. It’s not perfect but it is less imperfect than modern macOS has become.

Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by coldtea »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

The Finder looks like shit. The sidebar is like badly retrofited from another program, perhaps from some crappy Gnome theme.

The Control Center (or however they call the drop down window with quick controls for volume, wifi, brigthness, etc) has floating isolated icons like crap.

Bring back Scott Forstall. Give him a big bonus. Let him fix this shit.

Otherwise, the code changes and actual features are probably fine.

Re: macOS Tahoe

#230

Post by nomel »

_2d30 wrote: post #216
nomel wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple no longer cares about disabled people. Did you enable the relevant accessibility options that are there for this purpose?

Why do that? If they did any investigation into the accessibility options whatsoever then they wouldn't be able to treat us to Kanye style analysis.

I'm sorry, but that's not a logical stance. If this were the method that anyone in the industry used (which absolutely nobody does) all interfaces would be high contrast 150pt font, no transparency, two color, because that's what my grandma needs.
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