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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by lynndotpy »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

I try not to indulge in negativity and scorn, but I agree with these sentiments. This is resoundly a regression. Text overlapping on text, searchboxes that are broken and now just function as text boxes, increased latency throughout the operating system.

It's so bad that it's kind of fascinating. Unfortunately, even "Reduce Transparency" doesn't fix the LG update.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by yogorenapan »

ivraatiems wrote: post #170

Reminder that if you have an old Mac, and you'd like to run more recent versions of macOS on it, you can do so with Dortania OpenCore ( https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/ ). They don't have Tahoe support yet, but almost certainly will in the coming months. I highly recommend doing this instead of throwing away a 5 or 6 year old computer as ewaste! (Windows and Linux also work on Intel Macs.)

Thank you so much. I only need a Mac to compile/debug with Xcode (still can't get USB pass through with quickemu working) but Apple has been killing old versions such that projects wont build and home brew has no bottles and whatnot.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by thewebguyd »

asdhtjkujh wrote: post #55

I should know better, but I'm still surprised they're shipping this version of Liquid Glass. Performance is stable but there are so many UI bugs and inconsistencies that haven't been fixed from early betas, including low-hanging fruit that a second year design student would notice. I don't mind change or interface elements moving around but keynote-level UI overhauls should be fully implemented at launch, otherwise p…

Yeah I shouldn't be surprised this was allowed to launch today, but yet I am.

I ran the whole beta on all my devices. Every new beta I'd ask myself "Surely they fixed 'x' by now, right?" and we advanced, beta after beta, with the same bugs and performance regressions all the way up to launch.

The icons still need to redraw in the settings app and app library. It's overall sluggish. The drop shadows are huge in the finder and other apps top bar. If you turn on always show scrollbars they get cut off at a weird angle due to the excessive corner radius.

My iPhone 16 PM runs hot all the time, even on release now, vs. iOS 18.

I don't mind the transparency or glass effects. I actually like it in some areas. But man does it need some serious polish and bug fixing, and a lot of time and effort spent on consistency.

This should never have went live in this state. I consider .0 just another beta, really. Actual release will probably be .2 or .3

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by AHTERIX5000 »

It's not as bad as the first previews but ugly nonetheless and overall accessibility nightmare.

All I hope is that the design language stays contained in Apple ecosystem and does not spread.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by dsego »

etempleton wrote: post #150
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

I have been running the beta from the beginning and they have improved quite a bit, but I am actually shocked they didn't delay Mac OS 26, because the design is so rough around the edges. Some of the larger aesthetic changes, such as the menu bar and the dock look good, but there is so much more that looks objectively awful. 1. the way window UI elements float in bubbles on the top over a white background is horrible…

Looking at the Slack icon right now, and it just looks blurry and low resolution, same for Calendar and some others, it's awful.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by wilg »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

I've been running the RC and I have had no issues. Some of the design choices (sidebars particularly) are strange, but it's generally fine.

I recommend not overcomplicating your life and just staying on the latest macOS.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by thewebguyd »

flenserboy wrote: post #162

Apple had a chance to bring back taste when they got rid of Ive, but missed it entirely. The overly rounded windows, the weird amount of blank space, the lack of clarity in general — the only thing that makes sense is that middle managers brought this about. edit: Things are even worse — they already made newer apps much more difficult to read, likely because they have been brought from mobile to desktop. Now fonts a…

> Now fonts are even smaller in System Settings, for example. What are they even thinking?

It's worse on the iPad. They apparently think an iPad is now also a mouse and cursor device because they made touch targets so small, and the fonts in menus shrunk down making them more difficult touch targets as well.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by veeti »

12_throw_away wrote: post #79

I swear I don't usually complain about UI styling updates, because it's usually not a big deal - but this looks really, really bad [1]. It's less functional with bizarre transparency choices destroying legibility, and big rounded corners taking up more dead space. And stylistically, the layouts just look unbalanced and amateurish (It reminds me of what happens when I attempt to do CSS layouts). Most Linux desktops un…

Imagine if Steve saw this...

https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/tahoe...

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by fridder »

OGEnthusiast wrote: post #160

The reason Liquid Glass on macOS specifically is getting so much blowback is that it isn't just updating the translucency effect with the new glass refraction effect - they've also increased the border radius of most windows, increased paddings in toolbars, sidebars, etc. and overall made the UI much less information-dense, which is wild for a desktop OS. If they had just changed the translucency effect, I think this…

If there is an alternative to the m-series that lets me keep the battery life I'd jump ship. The m-series chips are just so good though
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