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Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by rrrazdan »

Theodores wrote: post #428
ceejayoz wrote: post #278

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The wireless keyboards and touchpads have a Lightning-to-USB-A cord, which can be plugged into the computer directly. Primarily for charging, but if you charge off the computer it'll use the wire instead of Bluetooth for typing.

Do you know of any PC keyboards/mice that do this? I want to be able to do things in the BIOS so having a Bluetooth keyboard that charges and is functional over a mini USB adaptor would be really useful. Same with a mouse, Bluetooth is not always great but a mouse that did both wired and wireless would be neat. Even if this is only used once every six months when something goes wrong it would be nice to have. I prefe…

All of them? At least every BT keyboard/mouse that I have used does this.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by notvplez »

jordanthoms wrote: post #543
notvplez wrote: post #524

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Could you share some details about how you do this? Do you need displayport on both ends, and is it a monitor or TV? I have the same machine and a 4K TV with only HDMI-inputs and am curious if I can achieve this is in some way. Switchresx looks really useful anyway, so thank you for that. :)

If you have a Displayport display, you can use a displayport to mini displayport cable, use switchresx, should work good. If it's HDMI only, as the sibling pointed out the HDMI port won't work. However, Startech makes a displayport to HDMI adapter which works ( https://www.amazon.com/DisplayPort-HDMI-Adapter-Converter-60... ) (just make sure you get one which supports 4k60hz, most DP -> HDMI adapters don't).

I'll consider this though I it would be probably be sitting unused after trying it anyway as I really have no need for it. Thank you for the information. Just to clarify, we're both talking about a late 2013 macbook pro retina? The other helpful commenter mentions the 2015.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by ycombonator »

gwilkes wrote: post #592
ycombonator wrote: post #531

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I am in a similar situation as you. Have a Mid 2012 MBA. Works fantastic. Also Catalina beta seems to have sped the system performance immensely. Always plugged in because of the battery.

Recently replaced my 2012 MBA battery, the batteries are quite cheap and the replacement is surprisingly quick and easy on this model. About a five minute job, you can buy the battery with the needed tools here: https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/MacBook-Air-13-Inch-Late-20...

Sweet. Thanks for the tip.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by rrrazdan »

chadlavi wrote: post #407
aleem wrote: post #188

Apple has squandered a lot of its goodwill. It reminds me of my relationship with Microsoft products. As long as they were shipping, they were making money in the short term because people were coerced to buy in. For 5 damn years the Air didn't get a Retina display. Right now, I can't buy 2.8Ghz Macbook Pro unless I get the TouchBar. I can't buy an Air unless I settle for much lower specs. The dongles and USB-C are a…

The only place I ever plug anything besides a power cord into my macbook is at my desk, where there's a usb-c hub that has power, an external monitor, a USB mouse, a USB keyboard, and another open USB A port on it. I plug that single thing into my macbook and my entire workstation is plugged in. It's way less of a hassle than you're making it out to me.

Now try doing that with a 4k monitor at 60Hz. You can’t.

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Post by BurningFrog »

Reason077 wrote: post #374
labcomputer wrote: post #283

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> Also, on what planet did anyone have a Magsafe cord over 2m? It was fixed to the adapter. The 2m usb-c cable is removable, add it with the 1m power cable and it is a further reach than any prior Mac laptop adapter I've had, though I suppose third party ones exist. The power brick had a 2m detachable line-voltage cable, and fixed 2m low voltage cable. 2 + 2 = 4. I can sit 4m from the wall and charge using only the p…

> "Can you help me understand why you believe that Apple needed to move to USB-C to on the computer end in order to make a cable removable at the power supply end?" The thing is, once you make the cable detachable at both ends, it eliminates the need for MagSafe in the first place. A USB-C laptop will not go flying across the room if someone trips on the cable, because the cable will detach at either or both ends bef…

I'm not going to test this, but I seriously doubt it.

My 13" MacBook is very light, and I can even lift it half way with the USB-C cable. Pretty certain it would fly to the floor if my feet swept the cable that way. Of course, I don't have it set up so that can happen.

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Post by in_hindsight »

mrep wrote: post #568
robdachshund wrote: post #528

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Man you guys really have Stockholm syndrome.

I've got a late 2013 15" MBP with a 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7, 16GB of ram, 512GB SSD, and a NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M, and have been using it for 5 years now it and it is a great laptop. Can run chrome, mysql server, web servers, and personal programs without breaking a sweat. The only thing it cannot run are new video games or if you are deep into ML but old games still work great (I played GTA V on it ok when that came o…

Just add eGPU to it and it will be more or less capable of modern ML and games

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Post by Matthias247 »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #478
Perceptes wrote: post #71

I desperately hope this is true. I have the first MacBook Pro that came with the Touch Bar, and it's the worst computer I've ever owned. The keyboard has failed twice, and the Touch Bar is inferior to the old hardware keys in every way. I hate it. The only reason I got it is because the MacBook Air it replaced was dying and I couldn't wait any more. Assuming this report is true, my only remaining worry is that they w…

You could buy a 2015 MacBook Pro and upgrade to rock solid keyboard, sane-sized trackpad, MagSafe, hdmi, USB ports and an SD card port. It’s not thin enough to slice salami but I am a vegetarian so that’s not a big deal.

In the meantime I regretted so much that I bought my 2015 model with 8GB of RAM, which seemed like a reasonable decision back then. Everything else is still great and better than the newer model I got from work - but nowadays I seem to run out of memory all the time.

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Post by ksec »

photojosh wrote: post #574
ksec wrote: post #463

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Well, not really 90%. The trackpad is too big and introduce false positive that to some user is above threshold. I don't need such a large track pad for christ sake. The Display cable, while Apple making is 1cm longer, will only make it last a year or two more. That is 3 - 4 years of Display Lifespan. I hardly call this durable. The Thunderbolt and USB-C design is a bag of hurt, the amount of short circuit , logic bo…

I've not had a laptop with Touch Bar, but I can imagine making the trackpad smaller, then having the Touch Bar and the F-keys would be amazing. What do you think?

I too, would love to have both Touch Bar and Function Keys. I don't hate Touch Bar per se, I just don't like it replacing my F-Keys buttons. Pretty much like All Cars are going to Touch Screen interface, I mean UX designer will need to learn and understand, not everything requires software and touch screen.

The problem is though, Touch Bar and buttons would not work on 13" Macbook, the touch pad would be too small for some of the macOS gestures.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by pentae »

DrScientist wrote: post #155

Yeah! I really don't like the current keyboards. Also while your at it - produce a proper Pro laptop! Worry less about the thinness and - add better thermal control - more memory - more storage. - extra port or too so less requirements for dongles. - option for matt rather than shiny displays - old style trackpads with physical click - the new ones give me cognitive dissonance In terms of touch bar - it's mixed. I re…

You should just get the new Macbook Air thats being referenced in the article. Proper keyboard, No stupid touch bar, but still has Touch ID. Great machine.

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Post by Scoundreller »

Matthias247 wrote: post #617
andrei_says_ wrote: post #478

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You could buy a 2015 MacBook Pro and upgrade to rock solid keyboard, sane-sized trackpad, MagSafe, hdmi, USB ports and an SD card port. It’s not thin enough to slice salami but I am a vegetarian so that’s not a big deal.

In the meantime I regretted so much that I bought my 2015 model with 8GB of RAM, which seemed like a reasonable decision back then. Everything else is still great and better than the newer model I got from work - but nowadays I seem to run out of memory all the time.

Buy a 16gb board off eBay and do a board swap? Or buy a 16gb and sell the 8gb?

The former shouldn’t set you back much. The biggest cost on the latter would be the commissions, but you may be able to find a forum with a decent buy/sell section.

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