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Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by gambiting »

iamben wrote: post #196
FabHK wrote: post #156

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> I have the first MacBook Pro that came with the Touch Bar, and it's the worst computer I've ever owned. Same here (well, I have the "cheap" one without the Touch Bar). Everything has been replaced at least once (on Apple Care, fortunately) except the bottom plate. > The only reason I got it is because the MacBook Air it replaced was dying Same here. That MBA was a fine machine.

I'm still using my MBA from mid 2013. It's a wonderful thing. Battery is "replace soon" but it's mostly plugged in. It's battered and bruised, but still fast enough. I've been debating a change for a while and figured at the start of the year I'd wait to see if they were going to ditch the bf keyboard if they release a new MBA. Super glad I waited, fingers crossed I get the same life out of the next one! Say what you…

I have a 2009 MacBook Pro (Core2Duo + 4GB of ram), I've added an SSD years ago, and it runs absolutely fine, I use it almost daily to browse the web. Even the battery still works(only for about an hour, but it does).

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by esmi »

bayindirh wrote: post #350
esmi wrote: post #326

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Although I agree with you I wonder if it’s just an artifact of how we were trained to type. When I see kids type on glass they don’t seem to require this tactile feedback. In 5-10 years, basically when today’s 10 year olds are of working age, I wonder what we will see. But I do understand we need good keyboards today. Here is a small study that looked at it in kids: http://www.bradycline.com/2013/03/ipad-typing/

When I'm looking to the keyboard of my phone or tablet, I also don't need feedback, however while writing on a desktop PC or workstation and writing code full speed, physical keyboard gives my brain hints for alignment and takes another concentration task from my consciousness. Another effect is the screen size. You can see the keyboard and text area in your vision on a phone or tablet, but it's not possible in a des…

Definitely. It’s interesting how personal it all is. I guess I’m just theorizing how long until we are the modern equivalent of a writer who can only write with a typewriter.

When I was a kid writers would discuss typewriters very similar to how we discuss keyboards. I haven't seen a typewriter in years. ;)

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by atombender »

aleem wrote: post #188

Apple has squandered a lot of its goodwill. It reminds me of my relationship with Microsoft products. As long as they were shipping, they were making money in the short term because people were coerced to buy in. For 5 damn years the Air didn't get a Retina display. Right now, I can't buy 2.8Ghz Macbook Pro unless I get the TouchBar. I can't buy an Air unless I settle for much lower specs. The dongles and USB-C are a…

The MagSafe has a brilliant feature which is often forgotten: You can take someone else's MagSafe cable and plug it into your own MacBook without disturbing that person.

This is possible because of the magnetic connector, of course, but it's also because the connector has a light that tells you that the laptop is fully charged.

I frequently sit in an office with co-workers, or in a room with friends, and there's an unspoken rule that you can nab someone's charging cable if you need to charge your own MacBook.

The light helps in situations where the other person isn't near their MacBook, too. You'd obviously never take a charging cable from someone's laptop that might be low on juice. But if the light is green, you can.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by dewey »

sroussey wrote: post #411
dewey wrote: post #19

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The problem that most people have is not with how it feels, it's how unreliable it is with buttons failing or missing keystrokes. Sometimes only caused by a spec of dust. Getting used to the feeling of the flatter keyboard isn't really an issue for most people.

No, most people have no issues. There is not a 51% failure rate. Being in a group does not a majority make.

I was referring to the subset of people who have a problem though, not the total number of customers who bought one.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by HeWhoLurksLate »

labcomputer wrote: post #298
puranjay wrote: post #279

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How do people see removing Magsafe as a downgrade? My wife's Air has a Magsafe and the damn thing just keeps falling off. My new Air's charger has none of those problems. And if the cable gets torn, I can just plug in another. Even better, I can charge my other devices from the same cable. Right now, I'm charging my OnePlus phone with the same cable. This was definitely one case where Apple actually practiced some pr…

> How do people see removing Magsafe as a downgrade? Because it's so much easier to plug in. Get the plug close, and the magnet does the rest. In contrast, with USB-C, you not only have to align it with the receptacle, you also have to apply considerable force. I've had my MBP fail to charge overnight because I mistakenly thought the USB-C cable was plugged in all the way. USB-C cables also don't have the little LED…

   USB-C cables also don't have the little LED to [visually represent status]
IIRC, Dell's Thunderbolt dock cables have a light that turns on when your laptop is plugged in. (I don't have one yet, but some of my coworkers do.)

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Post by fastball »

rorykoehler wrote: post #142
Perceptes wrote: post #71

I desperately hope this is true. I have the first MacBook Pro that came with the Touch Bar, and it's the worst computer I've ever owned. The keyboard has failed twice, and the Touch Bar is inferior to the old hardware keys in every way. I hate it. The only reason I got it is because the MacBook Air it replaced was dying and I couldn't wait any more. Assuming this report is true, my only remaining worry is that they w…

I bought a maxed out 2013 mbp instead. Was ready to buy a brand new one cash in hand but couldn't bring myself to do it. Still waiting...

I have the 2015 MBP and I think it's the best laptop they've ever built.

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Post by Theodores »

ceejayoz wrote: post #278
mdemare wrote: post #268

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Apple doesn’t sell any wired mice or keyboards AFAICT.

The wireless keyboards and touchpads have a Lightning-to-USB-A cord, which can be plugged into the computer directly. Primarily for charging, but if you charge off the computer it'll use the wire instead of Bluetooth for typing.

Do you know of any PC keyboards/mice that do this? I want to be able to do things in the BIOS so having a Bluetooth keyboard that charges and is functional over a mini USB adaptor would be really useful. Same with a mouse, Bluetooth is not always great but a mouse that did both wired and wireless would be neat.

Even if this is only used once every six months when something goes wrong it would be nice to have. I prefer to use the same keyboard/mouse combo for all machines. Just having that full flexibility helps.

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Post by katbyte »

nfellaby wrote: post #197
FabHK wrote: post #156

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> I have the first MacBook Pro that came with the Touch Bar, and it's the worst computer I've ever owned. Same here (well, I have the "cheap" one without the Touch Bar). Everything has been replaced at least once (on Apple Care, fortunately) except the bottom plate. > The only reason I got it is because the MacBook Air it replaced was dying Same here. That MBA was a fine machine.

I'm still rocking my MBA form 2010, it wasn't even top spec at the time, but the keyboard, size, weight and battery are all great. The screen is pretty terrible I'll be honest, but if I'm working on it it doesn't bother me much. Plus it has one of those ever so rare HDMI out ports (no accessories necessary). I just replace the battery every so often. I'm currently weighing up the option of installing Linux onto it as…

I have a 2010 and 2015 MBP, both going strong.
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