This is good news! Sad to say I can’t buy another Mac laptop until the Touch Bar is gone, too. Sad, too, because that means I’m stuck with Linux, which is much higher maintenance than Mac OS. ;-)
Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook
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Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook
#152Yes finally. I still haven't updated my work laptop which is 2015 Macbook Pro because of the Butterfly keyboard
Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook
#153I desperately hope this is true. I have the first MacBook Pro that came with the Touch Bar, and it's the worst computer I've ever owned. The keyboard has failed twice, and the Touch Bar is inferior to the old hardware keys in every way. I hate it. The only reason I got it is because the MacBook Air it replaced was dying and I couldn't wait any more. Assuming this report is true, my only remaining worry is that they w…
This isn’t about the Touch Bar, it’s about the butterfly mechanism.
Rereading their comment, I am positive they knows that.
Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook
#154I sardonically worry that they will offer a touch screen keyboard instead.
I'm amazed by my iPhone 8 home button. It's not a real button, it's just an imitation, but its feedback is so real. I don't know whether it would be possible, but I think that it's a possibility: to imitate an entire keyboard with just flat touch panel. That would solve all problems with those movement parts that always failing and there would be no holes for dust at all!
I've got to say I'm surprised that anyone would really be fooled by the 8 home button. The haptic feedback is nice, but it still doesn't feel "real", at least not to me.
Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook
#155Yeah! I really don't like the current keyboards.
Also while your at it - produce a proper Pro laptop!
Worry less about the thinness and - add better thermal control - more memory - more storage. - extra port or too so less requirements for dongles. - option for matt rather than shiny displays - old style trackpads with physical click - the new ones give me cognitive dissonance
In terms of touch bar - it's mixed. I really miss the physical escape key ( but then I'm an emacs user ), but quite like the context dependence of the rest - as day to day escape is the only one that's really memory mapped.
So can't we have a physical escape key and the rest be touch bar?
Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook
#156I desperately hope this is true. I have the first MacBook Pro that came with the Touch Bar, and it's the worst computer I've ever owned. The keyboard has failed twice, and the Touch Bar is inferior to the old hardware keys in every way. I hate it. The only reason I got it is because the MacBook Air it replaced was dying and I couldn't wait any more. Assuming this report is true, my only remaining worry is that they w…
> I have the first MacBook Pro that came with the Touch Bar, and it's the worst computer I've ever owned.
Same here (well, I have the "cheap" one without the Touch Bar). Everything has been replaced at least once (on Apple Care, fortunately) except the bottom plate.
> The only reason I got it is because the MacBook Air it replaced was dying
Same here. That MBA was a fine machine.
Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook
#157It seems like there are two camps of people: Those who are very pleased to hear they will be backpedaling on their updated keyboard designs. Those who "don't understand" because they actually like the new keyboards (and the TouchBar even). No matter where you stand, the new keyboards are highly controversial and divisive, and that's not good. The old keyboards didn't put people into opposing sides, they just were the…
> The old keyboards didn't put people into opposing sides, they just were there. Have you ever spoken to a thinkpad advocate re: chiclet keyboards? The previous mac keyboards were absolutely controversial. It took years for the previous keyboard to be 'just a keyboard', which I do acknowledge happened. > I look forward to a return to a non controversial, highly usable and widely accepted as "fine", keyboard. Honestly…
> The previous mac keyboards were absolutely controversial. It took years for the previous keyboard to be 'just a keyboard', which I do acknowledge happened.
I would dispute that people stopped caring about the keyboard shortcomings. They're ergonomically bad keyboards, just not bad enough to keep complaining for this many years. If all Apple cares about is what people are currently chattering about, they're missing an opportunity to improve the product, because I still regard the MacBook keyboards as a reason to buy something else. When I think of the painful adjustment that I'll have to make if I ditch Apple laptops in favor of something else, there's a voice in my head saying, "Remember when a laptop keyboard could feel good to type on?" Banging my fingertips into a hard surface all day never became "just a keyboard."
Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook
#158Yeah! I really don't like the current keyboards. Also while your at it - produce a proper Pro laptop! Worry less about the thinness and - add better thermal control - more memory - more storage. - extra port or too so less requirements for dongles. - option for matt rather than shiny displays - old style trackpads with physical click - the new ones give me cognitive dissonance In terms of touch bar - it's mixed. I re…
> produce a proper Pro laptop!
Hmm, I'm afraid they listen and produce a $15k laptop... But ok, the MacBook Air is still in the lineup.
Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook
#159About time, been wanting get a MacBook pro to replace my 2011 MacBook Air but wasn't going to get one with that keyboard. Will still wait a while to see if new design is any good.
Yep, same here. I broke down and got a used 2015 MBP when the new Gen Airs came out, because I needed something and just couldn't handle the butterfly keyboard. ($day_job machine is a 2017 MBP, and 95% of the time, I use an external keyboard/monitor)
Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook
#160Yeah! I really don't like the current keyboards. Also while your at it - produce a proper Pro laptop! Worry less about the thinness and - add better thermal control - more memory - more storage. - extra port or too so less requirements for dongles. - option for matt rather than shiny displays - old style trackpads with physical click - the new ones give me cognitive dissonance In terms of touch bar - it's mixed. I re…
Sounds like you want a hackintosh thinkpad