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Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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I wouldn’t know because Apple doesn’t want iPhone 13 Pro Max users having access to their AI functionality. So my 18.2 update is neutered compared to someone’s running the latest device.

This is actually for lack of RAM reasons - 15 pro and above have 8gb RAM which is enough to fit 3-4gb models locally with room to spare for rest of the applications. The 13 pro max has 6gb of RAM which is not enough.

Oh that makes sense, thanks for explaining!

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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I disagree, I think the problem with surveys like this is the focus on billing everything as "AI" instead of just what it used to be as a nice feature. A lot of the small things that Apple has introduced, are things that blend in and are not screaming "AI" at you. Which is a good thing. So many of the things that are being pushed by other companies are AI crap that is flashy to show off but either the utility of it i…

I think you are downplaying just how many eggs Tim Cook has put in this basket to pitch to shareholders vs. the perceived low % of apple engineering staff that seems to have been involved in its creation. ATT has been advertising "get the new iPhone with Apple Intelligence" before it was even available for sale! And now it's here, and it's a tiny bump in feature set. A super missed opportunity to rebrand/completely revamp Siri, and instead an implicit acceptance of defeat that Siri is still so dumb, you should just ask her to ask "someone else" (ChatGPT). Cook is feeling pressure to explain how Apple is going to crank out unsustainable revenue growth even after basically saturating the world (at some point you've won capitalism).

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

"We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work"

Holy shit, really? That sounds horrific.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

What I don't understand is, what benefit is there for 99% of companies to get in on the ground floor of LLMs? If you're not developing your own model, you're effectively just beta testing someone else's model. And if the sales pitch of LLMs being able to do basically anything comes true, wouldn't most companies still get the same benefit if they just wait? It seems like a lot of companies are so terrified of missing…

I assume they believe in the advantages, to the company, of using these AI tools. Of adding them to the workflow, training their employees, and understanding quickly how it impacts their space.

If you just wait and all of your competitors have a workforce enabled and equipped with the best tools, you are at a disadvantage. It's being the company that put off computerization or automation when everyone else went wild.

And FWIW, I cannot imagine a programmer, in 2024, that remains dismissive of LLMs or the related tooling. While they are grossly oversold by the LinkedIn crowd, and are still a far ways from so-called "prompt engineers" replacing devs, they're a massive accelerator and "second set of eyes", especially if you're doing varied, novel work.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

> We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work Unless you work at Microsoft, that's really interesting to me. Can't say I've ever experienced a boss pushing for me to use a certain developer tool.

It's pretty common in large orgs, I think. Someone gets sold on or just excited about the features claimed by a particular product and becomes the czar for that thing. They want to make the transition to that product successful for their own career reasons. If people aren't using it, then the purchase was a bad move, so people start getting pressured to use the product regardless of how useful it is.

Year ago, my company switched from Skype for Business to MS Teams, and we just used Teams the same way we did Skype for Business (PMing each other directly) and the guy who made the transition was always lecturing us about having conversations in public threads instead.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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AI, especially LLMs, needs to move beyond being a "checkbox feature" and focus on solving real problems effectively. For example, as some users noted, personalized AI capabilities—such as context-aware assistance for accessibility or seamless integration across devices—have the potential to revolutionize user experience. However, the current implementation often feels more like a marketing exercise than a thoughtful enhancement. Until AI tools provide consistent, tangible value, skepticism from users is likely to persist

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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So, surveys.

"Smartphone users in general are unsatisfied with the existing AI features as the survey recorded 73% of Apple Intelligence users and 87% of Galaxy AI users stating the new features to be either ‘not very valuable’ or they ‘add little to no value’ to their smartphone experience."

This could be read as 27% of users, who have tried a brand new way of interacting with their phone, found it useful to some degree right away. Imagine: You introduce a brand new, well, anything into peoples lives at Apple scale, and 27% of them find it useful, right away.

I don't know what number people expect, but I think you could consider this an outrageous success. I am not saying it should be read that way. But then again, I am not sure why it should be read any other way.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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post #56

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

I disagree about the summaries. I find them to be vey good and helpful. I teach a high level course and each week have the transcript summarized for students; also get feedback on my lecture and help creating the lesson plan for the following week. My father was Dean of one of the top teachers colleges in the world and has been blown away by how useful LLMs can be for education.

LLMs could and should revolutionize education, with proper human supervision and fact checking since they regularly make shit up too

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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post #59

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

Personally I've found Copilot's meeting summaries to be really good. They're definitely a lot better than most minutes I've ever seen taken contemporaneously.

The crazy thing to me means that people are okay with recording 100% of every meeting they ever have. I've been in plenty of meetings where you just don't want things recorded, and no, that does not mean the meeting was shady.
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