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Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by _heimdall »

Apreche wrote: post #16

I was considering enabling it, and I could see the features being useful for some people, but not for me. For example, notification summaries. If someone has apps blasting them with notifications, summarizing them into fewer more meaningful ones could be truly helpful. But for me, I’ve carefully managed my notifications. I get almost none. Every single one that is enabled is important and actionable. I don’t need to…

Notification summaries is an interesting one, feels like an email spam filter. I've always been of the mind, though, that if I'm getting too much spam I need a new email address rather than a better filter (or in this case, better notification limits/settings).

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by nerdjon »

I disagree, I think the problem with surveys like this is the focus on billing everything as "AI" instead of just what it used to be as a nice feature.

A lot of the small things that Apple has introduced, are things that blend in and are not screaming "AI" at you. Which is a good thing.

So many of the things that are being pushed by other companies are AI crap that is flashy to show off but either the utility of it is nowhere near the promise due to fundamental issues with AI, or the novelty of it wears off and is actually useless and no one cares.

Sure I wish that Apple was a bit faster with some of this, but when compared to things like Recall, rabbit, or other vaporware. They are going about it the right way, we just need to stop trying to throw around the "AI" name on everything when most users didn't have "ML" shoved down their throats for the features that they used every day powered by (fundamentally) the same tech.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by ARandumGuy »

everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

What I don't understand is, what benefit is there for 99% of companies to get in on the ground floor of LLMs? If you're not developing your own model, you're effectively just beta testing someone else's model. And if the sales pitch of LLMs being able to do basically anything comes true, wouldn't most companies still get the same benefit if they just wait? It seems like a lot of companies are so terrified of missing the boat that they don't sit down and do actual risk analysis.

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Post by omcnoe »

Biggest disappointment with Apple Intelligence is that it doesn't seem to be able to do anything with the apps I actually use. Can't say "find this email" because I am using the gmail app instead of Apple's inbuilt email app. Can't say "send blah blah blah to Bob Smith on Teams" because Teams doesn't integrate at all.

Without integrations into any apps smart assistant isn't very smart.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by hobs »

_heimdall wrote: post #19
everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

> We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work Unless you work at Microsoft, that's really interesting to me. Can't say I've ever experienced a boss pushing for me to use a certain developer tool.

I have many friends telling me their job is actively pushing for them to use AI, asking them to be creative about the use of AI, and in some cases pivoting the business to AI products which have no profit margin for the business.

I have worked at many places, and often as soon as there's enough profit and momentum based on the back of some core product the fad chasing begins in earnest.

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Post by pid-1 »

everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

I've brought MS Copilot licenses for my company in ~ February 2023. They were sold in a yearly commitment and offered no trials. A bad deal, but I was afraid of missing out AI productivity gains.

I'm definitely not renewing those. Times are hard and the value provided does not justify the cost.

I wonder how many companies will do the same.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by code_for_monkey »

FiniteLooper wrote: post #5

The ONLY Apple AI feature that was even remotely interesting to me was the photo clean up. Works pretty good for removing objects from a photo, which would be hard to do on a phone otherwise without opening in another app or messing with it on a desktop application

Android has had that for ages, and its cool to play with maybe twice and then I kind of forgot about it. It just turns out I dont take a lot of pictures that need cleaning up.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by uludag »

I was reflecting on old technologies that were supposedly revolutionary at the time, like palm pilots, and what value they really provided. Like, I can imagine a someone at that time using a palm pilot and claiming that it's making them more "productive."

Looking back though, such technologies are nothing compared to what we have. So there's a perceived gap between our current state of technology (LLMs etc.) and the past, yet the gains in productivity don't seem to match this perception (e.g. if our tools are 1000x better, why do I feel only like 1.1x more productive. revolutionary AI tools? still, I only feel at most 1.1x more productive in life in general).

My idea is that such technologies' utility is secondary to their signaling power. Like, users seeing value in Apple Intelligence isn't the point. Rather, integrating AI into your product is a signal of competitive prowess. And using AI, even if it makes you less productive and produce worse work, signals your faith in technological progress and innovation.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by akshayshah »

cut3 wrote: post #9

It drains the phone battery so fast it's unusable as is.

The delay that Apple Intelligence introduces into notifications is also unacceptable. On both desktop and iOS, notifications are _very_ late - often more than a second on my M2 Max laptop - which ends up being quite distracting.
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