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Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by grishka »

uludag wrote: post #29

I was reflecting on old technologies that were supposedly revolutionary at the time, like palm pilots, and what value they really provided. Like, I can imagine a someone at that time using a palm pilot and claiming that it's making them more "productive." Looking back though, such technologies are nothing compared to what we have. So there's a perceived gap between our current state of technology (LLMs etc.) and the…

The productivity improvement is negative because of how much of everything is now a "product" instead of just a tool. Whenever you open something, especially after not using it for a while, you're met with an obstacle course of in-your-face modals and popovers about new features that you don't give a shit about.

Software used to let you get your job done more efficiently. Installing a new app and learning to use it felt like discovering a superpower. Now it feels like a chore. Now it feels like computers don't serve people any more, but the other way around.

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Post by freetime2 »

The only “benefit” of Apple Intelligence so far is that it apparently requires a lot of memory, causing Apple to bump up their minimum Mac Mini configurations to 16 GB memory. I’m loving my Mac Mini so far - but that’s entirely due to the M4 chip inside rather than any Apple Intelligence feature.

I have not used a single Intelligence feature beyond just trying them out initially and being completely underwhelmed.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by mmiyer »

replwoacause wrote: post #35

I wouldn’t know because Apple doesn’t want iPhone 13 Pro Max users having access to their AI functionality. So my 18.2 update is neutered compared to someone’s running the latest device.

This is actually for lack of RAM reasons - 15 pro and above have 8gb RAM which is enough to fit 3-4gb models locally with room to spare for rest of the applications. The 13 pro max has 6gb of RAM which is not enough.

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Post by xattt »

everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

> The summaries are just not very good, and any sort of LLM writing is a tacit acknowledgement that people don’t really care what they are writing, an that no one is really reading that writing very carefully.)

I tend to write emails aggressively. The friendly option is helpful to tone down the rhetoric.

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Post by ada1981 »

everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

I disagree about the summaries. I find them to be vey good and helpful.

I teach a high level course and each week have the transcript summarized for students; also get feedback on my lecture and help creating the lesson plan for the following week.

My father was Dean of one of the top teachers colleges in the world and has been blown away by how useful LLMs can be for education.

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Post by dagmx »

Feels a bit premature to survey this because most of the very user forward features only released last week, so are still very early in having users update.

The ones in 18.1 are significantly more in the background and restricted to the US.

I’m not saying the results themselves would change necessarily, just that the timing of the survey is poor to have any actual substance be drawn from it.

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Post by DiggyJohnson »

BrandiATMuhkuh wrote: post #41
kemiller2002 wrote: post #15

We have a family friend who is blind and a programmer. It's interesting to hear his perspective. His hope and expectation are that it will greatly increase usability. I've been thrown into the usability deep end due to my wife also losing her sight due to an autoimmune disorder, and my dad losing his sight due to Macular Degeneration. Honestly, it sucks, and I mean like rage quitting, phone throwing sucks. (Try it. T…

Sorry to hear about what is happening in your family. I think your perspective is spot on. VUI (voice user interfaces) will absolutely change the way we interact with computers. After all, talking comes naturally to humans. The digit divide (old people, very young people, illiterate) still exists. And will likely get bigger if VUIs don't get wide spread adoption.

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For some reason I spent a few minutes trying to understand the digit divide before realizing it was a typo.

I do think VUI as a concept is in its infancy and will (like it or not) both hasten and address the decline of written communication.

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Post by EPWN3D »

everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

Personally I've found Copilot's meeting summaries to be really good. They're definitely a lot better than most minutes I've ever seen taken contemporaneously.
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