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Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by zanellato19 »

jaywalk wrote: post #509
ozzythecat wrote: post #474

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cancelled because it’s not worth the time investment. Good shows are not only difficult to find, but Netflix will release a season or two and unreasonably no longer continue on, without closing out the story. They try to cater to a mass audience and use a large net, but then due to capital costs or whatever reasons, they force their customer to feel stupid for getting invested into a show in the first place. I miss…

Entire seasons being released at once was such a massive positive for streaming. The fact that they're moving away from that just to boost numbers is very disappointing.

I disagree. The wait and the suspense it builds and the talking between friends is amazing.

People surging ahead leads to a difficulty in conversation that week-to-week episodes do not.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

sudden_dystopia wrote: post #22

Interesting analysis. I find it interesting that so many people spend so much time watching tv in the first place. Growing up, I was one of those people but about a decade ago I lost interest in pretty much anything on television. There are certain shows that I will watch on occasion that get me hooked, but I usually struggle to find anything that is actually worth my time and end up just turning the tv off after sur…

I'm the opposite of you. From age 20 to about age 45, I did not watch TV at all. Part of that was because I grew up in the UK, and the experience I had with the BBC (and a bit of Channel 4 and very occasionally ITV) made US TV just look stupid to me. Endless stupid ads, laugh tracks, completely unrealistic characters, dumb plots, and more endless stupid ads.

Then ... Netflix arrived. I started watching a few of the shows that people raved about from their days on network TV, and I realized that the biggest problem was ... endless stupid ads. Which Netflix did not have. I became willing to try out HBO from time to time, got in Battlestar Galactica, and of course in 2014, True Detective showed up on HBO. In 2019, I discovered Deadwood (at that point nearly a decade old), a more or less Shakespearian epic of 19th century US history. Over the past decade, I've discovered so many truly worth shows - and I haven't event started on The Wire yet!

On top of that, Netflix has given me access to several UK shows (Luther, for example, but also Grand Designs (now, thankfully, on Youtube)) that have rounded out the menu.

I understand that aesthetic choices with TV shows are very personal, but I can honestly say that I now absolutely believe that "TV" (ala the new streaming services and/or their presentation of material without ads) can be a medium for stellar story telling. I would like it if we had a few more defined "limited series" where there's a story already known, with a beginning, middle and end (True Detective and Mare of Eastttown are great examples of this (as long as they do not ruin Mare by making a sequel). And sure, there are some TV series that really would have been better as a film. Nevertheless, the ability to spend 8-16 hours with compelling characters is big positive to me.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by Stunting »

sleepybrett wrote: post #469
Stunting wrote: post #291

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You're stealing income, specifically from me and all of my coworkers. Perhaps you think that you're only stealing from Producers and A list actors, but there are entire departments that receive residuals on a production. - On screen performers, stunt performers like myself and actors who grind out a comfortable living. Those residuals also go to qualifying for health insurance through earnings. You are directly steal…

When I lend a physical dvd to my friend is that stealing?

Did you purchase, rent, or legally borrow the physical dvd?

When you lend it out, are you still able to enjoy the entertainment service provided by the dvd?

The answers to these questions are the answers to your questions.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by cpcat »

I can tell you why i cancelled my subscription. Everytime i would access Netflix from another device, they would reset my password and i couldn't create a new one without contacting customer service. They basically kicked me out. When i said i don't want to go through this process for the third time, and since your algorithms kicked me out, i want my money back, at least whatever is left of my subscription. They said no, i either go through the manual process with them to reset my password, or my subscription will automatically renew (because i can't even log in to cancel it). Thankfully they were very happy to cancel my subscription on my behalf.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by NearAP »

greggman3 wrote: post #521
NearAP wrote: post #484

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I agree. - I recently realized I had only turned on my TV just about 4 - 5 times in about 6 months and yet I was paying close to $140 per month, so I downgraded my cable subscription to the minimal (combined cable & internet is cheaper than only internet). - Also realized I rarely watched Netflix (hadn't watched in months) cos I no longer found shows that I liked and I was paying $15.49 per month. And then I saw HBO…

> There's also the psychological part that HBO Max allows me to pay for the whole year upfront (Netflix doesn't) so I can close my eyes and just pay them $100 and be done with it. Interesting. My behavior has been that when someone recommends a show on Netflix and I decide I want to watch it it subscribe and cancel which means I pay for 1 month. I watch the show. I've tried browsing for others but hate browsing on Ne…

yes, that makes sense for your use case i.e. you're not 'interested' in subscribing in general but you only want to watch a specific show.

For me, if I want to get the package (in general and not for a specific instance), I'd rather pay upfront (so far as it's not expensive) than the monthly subscription. Psychologically, I feel like - 'I just eat the cost and I'm done'. So I'd rather just pay you $100 for the entire year or say $60 for the entire year of Sirius XM than a monthly thing.

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Post by Stunting »

BonoboIO wrote: post #516
Stunting wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're stealing income, specifically from me and all of my coworkers. Perhaps you think that you're only stealing from Producers and A list actors, but there are entire departments that receive residuals on a production. - On screen performers, stunt performers like myself and actors who grind out a comfortable living. Those residuals also go to qualifying for health insurance through earnings. You are directly steal…

What a coincidence, I finished „no sudden move“ seconds ago.

oh rad. I had an amazing time watching Soderbergh literally operate a camera above my recently deceased body. It was spiritual.

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Post by indigodaddy »

NearAP wrote: post #484
danans wrote: post #322

I doubt most of the subscription loss is attributable to reasons that most HN types go on about (the rants about wokeness, not enough scifi, carousel UI, pirating etc...). What's probably going on is after after a few years of pandemic isolation and Netflix binging, the arrival of pandemic triggered inflation, and overall higher employment rates, people just have less interest, time, and money to binge watch longer f…

I agree. - I recently realized I had only turned on my TV just about 4 - 5 times in about 6 months and yet I was paying close to $140 per month, so I downgraded my cable subscription to the minimal (combined cable & internet is cheaper than only internet). - Also realized I rarely watched Netflix (hadn't watched in months) cos I no longer found shows that I liked and I was paying $15.49 per month. And then I saw HBO…

Also if you look for sales on Slickdeals for 4K movies (digital as well as physical), you can OWN (albeit another discussion exists for what owning digital content actually means for the buyer) a 4K movie for as little as $4-5 dollars when sales slide down that low.

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Post by Stunting »

danielovichdk wrote: post #498
Stunting wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're stealing income, specifically from me and all of my coworkers. Perhaps you think that you're only stealing from Producers and A list actors, but there are entire departments that receive residuals on a production. - On screen performers, stunt performers like myself and actors who grind out a comfortable living. Those residuals also go to qualifying for health insurance through earnings. You are directly steal…

How much money do you make per movie ? Honest question

I don't give out exact income on the internet.

Our base pay is daily rate governed through SAG-Aftra CBA with the Producer's guild and scaled off the budget of the production. Then there are OT factors and bumps that go along with how difficult the particular work is.

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Post by shp0ngle »

OskarS wrote: post #60

The thing I find interesting with Netflix is how much they spend on content and what a terrible rate of return it has. Look at Apple TV+, they're absolutely TINY compared to Netflix in both library size and money spent on new production, but they have arguably more hits than Netflix. Like, since when has any drama on Netflix been as buzzy or as good as Severance on Apple TV+? When was the last time they had a comedy…

I have no idea what happened with Netflix.

Their first few originals were great, or if not great, then at least interesting.

Now, they produce so much, but most of it is just… feeling like made by AI

Like they see what is popular elsewhere and trying to produce exactly the same thing. But as with GPT generated text, after a while, you can sense something is off.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by bumby »

martibravo wrote: post #495
danans wrote: post #322

I doubt most of the subscription loss is attributable to reasons that most HN types go on about (the rants about wokeness, not enough scifi, carousel UI, pirating etc...). What's probably going on is after after a few years of pandemic isolation and Netflix binging, the arrival of pandemic triggered inflation, and overall higher employment rates, people just have less interest, time, and money to binge watch longer f…

I have been a Netflix customer for 5+ years, and I've switched services to Disney+ for two reasons: - Netflix with 4K and 4 streaming devices costs 17.99€ here ($19.50), while Disney+ only costs €8.99 with the same features. - Netflix made and continues to make good content, but since major producers have been removing their content from Netflix and into their own services, Netflix here almost survives on old local s…

>There have been some rumors of ads on the platform to boost revenue.

It's been stated elsewhere here but worth reiterating: the current description of this idea is to give customers the option to have ads in exchange for a lower overall subscription cost and not just shoehorn them into the existing plans.

At least that's the stated intent. I can definitely see where it can lead to a slippery slope where it's easier to just give ads to everyone when they need another revenue bump.

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