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Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by lavataco »

canucker2016 wrote: post #386
tveyben wrote: post #191

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Why this enshittification… I also see this bad design pattern - tried to clone an outlook calendar event, a meeting with a teams link it that I need repeatedly at sporadic new times (thus can not set it up as repeating). Outlook native is unable to do that - I am then forced to use Teams to clone the event, likely because Teams need a new meeting id - but why the f••• is Outlook native not able to do that (oh - it’s…

Schedule+ had the concept of exceptions to a recurring appointment (RA) - meetings that didn't follow the recurring pattern (e.g. every week on thursday at 4pm). This was exposed through the UI by letting the user adjust the date & time for the RA instance (e.g. move this week's thursday 4pm meeting to 2pm) via drag-drop or editing the RM instance and change the time in the appt dialog. So I assume with Outlook you c…

The recurring events calendar spec is crazy powerful, but also crazy bc its just a flat text file. For a bit i was attempting to stream-parse a huge calendar on my esp32 lcd display board and went down the rabbit hole.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by lavataco »

beart wrote: post #25
netsharc wrote: post #5

Started a new job, with Windows 11. notepad.exe now takes 3 to 4 seconds to load on my work system... (even after closing the last tab and reopening the program). Hah, it even has in-app purchases, for AI writing...

As slow as Windows is (very), once you start adding the corporate security tools on top of it (Crowdstrike) and have to deal with a slow and buggy corporate DNS system, it just becomes unusable. The only way I can do anything timely now is through WSL.

I’ve been experimenting with windows 11 IoT enterprise this week. You can disable and uninstall a fair amount of cruft

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by green7ea »

eudamoniac wrote: post #251
lbriner wrote: post #100

They have enough employees to build native apps that run super quick but are still seduced by the web portability argument which, as we all know, is mostly untrue even now and which introduces all kinds of non-deterministic latencies/errors, which cannot all be handled neatly. To be honest, this is the same in almost all apps that have any more than 10 developers working on them (my estimate!). Death by dependencies…

The platform is not the issue. Competent engineering teams could blow this out of the water with a single threaded jquery web app.

Why a team... give me a few days ;-)

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Post by squidgyhead »

RajT88 wrote: post #401
fluffybucktsnek wrote: post #378

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Unless your hardware is exotic (or actively anti-consumer), most devices are well supported. If you wouldn't mind, what issues did you have recently?

3 Words: Dell Docking Stations

I have the opposite experience. With the HP docking station, we were unable to drive a 4k monitor using windows. On linux thisnjust worked.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by justsomehnguy »

kaladin-jasnah wrote: post #333
justsomehnguy wrote: post #327

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My favourite part of these success stories when Nautilus can,t replicate some functionality which Windows has since forever, eg copy-pasting tex and files across 3 RDP sessions deep. Sure, someone who uses their computer as a glorified SSH terminal with an occasional Google.Docs edition wouldn't see a problem, but I, who works everyday - do.

It's reductive to say that people who aren't "copy-pasting tex and files across 3 RDP sessions deep" are not "working everyday." While Windows fits your use case, some people do use SSH for their real work as well, even if it is simpler.

> some people do use SSH for their real work as well

Somehow all that 'real work' boils down to configuring servers. Most people don't configure servers 24/7 or even 8/5. They need to work with files of different formats and with different apps. Now tell me, how would you use SSH (not SSH tunneling, lol) to loot at some .jpegs to decide to what would be used in somewhere.

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Post by justsomehnguy »

grebc wrote: post #340
justsomehnguy wrote: post #327

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My favourite part of these success stories when Nautilus can,t replicate some functionality which Windows has since forever, eg copy-pasting tex and files across 3 RDP sessions deep. Sure, someone who uses their computer as a glorified SSH terminal with an occasional Google.Docs edition wouldn't see a problem, but I, who works everyday - do.

The only people who I’ve ever known to use tex are honours students & academics. Comedy gold saying that’s work .

Comedy gold is what it didn't occur to you what that was a typo in my comment.

Now go consistently copy-paste text (at least) and files over your VNC connection.

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Post by justsomehnguy »

krferriter wrote: post #362
justsomehnguy wrote: post #327

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My favourite part of these success stories when Nautilus can,t replicate some functionality which Windows has since forever, eg copy-pasting tex and files across 3 RDP sessions deep. Sure, someone who uses their computer as a glorified SSH terminal with an occasional Google.Docs edition wouldn't see a problem, but I, who works everyday - do.

Mount a shared drive? Use sshfs?

Yes, exactly what the problem is. Every Linux fanboi has a lot of problem solving CLI incantations. While Windows users just use the default and working copy-paste (and don't need root/Administrator rights for that too).

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Post by saratogacx »

maccard wrote: post #315
saratogacx wrote: post #312

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If it is mostly your own tooling you may want to look at setting up a dev drive. It is supposed to be more optimized around workloads that would normally spin stuff like defender off the rails. System -> Advanced -> -> For developers -> Developer Mode [on] -> Dev Drive -> Create Dev Drive

I need to write the blog post. I keep being told this, and it’s not the solution. After a reboot, on an NVMe dev drive with no disk encryption, first launch of our internal application (unreal editor) takes 9 minutes on my workstation. If I disable windows defender before launching it, it takes 30 seconds. If I add all the processes as exclusions, and add the workspace folder as an exclusion to defender… 9 minutes. e…

I'd much rather know that something I think should work won't and where it happens. Bad advice can't become good advice in a vacuum.

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Post by Grombobulous »

annzabelle wrote: post #395
fluffybucktsnek wrote: post #378

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Unless your hardware is exotic (or actively anti-consumer), most devices are well supported. If you wouldn't mind, what issues did you have recently?

On the desktop that's true, but when I last used linux laptops (Debian, probably in 2021 or so), there were significant driver issues for the touchpad, touchscreen, buttons for brightness, and audio on every laptop I tried. I eventually gave up and bought a Macbook and installed Homebrew and Rectangle on it. I haven't thought about drivers or firmware updates for that device since I bought it. If I did own a desktop,…

I would say even 2021 is long enough ago for that landscape to have changed quite a bit. For one thing, Framework was barely a company back then, now they’re a mature and highly viable OEM choice.

As a small tip, I prefer using Arch-based distributions as they get new kernels rapidly and therefore new hardware support comes fast. They’re also an obvious choice for people who play games on Steam since SteamOS is arch based.

In the AI age, almost any problem with Linux is a quick query or copy/pasted error message away. The days of spending hours on troubleshooting are over.

If you were willing to buy a whole new piece of hardware with a MacBook, perhaps you’d be willing to buy a Linux-first laptop in the future? For example, the Framework 13 Pro has purportedly caught up to many of the advantages of a MacBook Pro (battery life, haptic trackpad, CNC aluminum chassis), judging by early press impressions. Over half of Framework 13” customers install Linux and it’s Ubuntu certified. Besides being the premier Linux laptop, you also get all the repairability and modularity benefits the brand has on offer.

I personally own the current non-Pro model and despite its shortcomings that the new model doesn’t have (I have my preorder in), the overall package is a pretty modern laptop where 100% of the hardware works flawlessly with Linux.

Even if you aren’t looking for that type of machine and just want something from a more common OEM like Lenovo or ASUS, I have found that solid Linux support is not tough to find. Basically any common laptop that’s older than 6 months old is well-supported. One of my friends bought a $500 ThinkPad T14 on eBay and of course 100% of the hardware works.

Macs are the gold standard for not having any need to mess with drivers, but I have found my AMD graphics driver to be a lot more stable in Linux than in Windows. That was the major decision point in wiping my desktop gaming PC and installing CachyOS.

My “final straw” motivation to leave macOS on my laptop last year was Liquid Glass. Other motivations included my frustration with certain Apple services and the level of abstraction and lock-in they have, running out of storage space in my system, as well as frustration with my laptop being capable enough but unable to play any of most of my PC games from a software standpoint.

Returning to speaking of something relevant to this article, now that I have no macOS or Windows, I am no longer tied down with Thunderbolt as the only viable desktop email client anymore as I don’t need to support all three operating systems. I’m enjoying Evolution a lot more than Thunderbird, but of course there are numerous Linux-only choices I could have gone with.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by dev_hugepages »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #479
raincole wrote: post #351

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> It has been polished and ready since at least 2019. Linux people said things like this in 2019 too. It's always "been improved a lot in the past few years" (not saying this statement can't be true.) At this point I'm convinced that no matter how much or little Linux desktop is improved, its market share is solely dependent on how much Microsoft fucked up.

Yep, see also "lies, damn lies, and feedback on arch linux": https://www.bitecode.dev/p/lies-damn-lies-and-feedback-on-ar...

I read your blog and I can't agree, i've installed arch Linux before and only had to read the arch wiki page on it and it worked fine with none of the issues you described.

Same thing with gentoo, that I am daily driving now.

I sure had hickups but I managed to solve them by sitting and reading the manuals/wikis of the distros directly, or the programs I was dealing with. Maybe the problem is that you read an obscure forum to get your answer? I don't know.

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