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Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by notwhereyouare »

olex wrote: post #10
patates wrote: post #8

> Outlook is based on WebView2, and like all web apps, it’s slow Fastmail also has a web based email client, which is as fast as (if not faster than) Outlook Classic. The new Outlook is just bad. Load order is wrong, it renders everything on every window, loads unnecessary data, etc. Plain annoying.

The Fastmail client is good when it's up and running, but not as good as well-implemented native apps. The initial startup is much slower, and the iOS / iPadOS app (which is the same webapp iirc) is pretty bug-ridden, with the webview freezing or app not progressing past the loading animation without a close swipe / reopen.

it really feels like that not progressing past the loading animation all of a sudden has gotten worse. like yea, used to happen like once a week for me, but now it's probably once a day

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by itopaloglu83 »

netsharc wrote: post #5

Started a new job, with Windows 11. notepad.exe now takes 3 to 4 seconds to load on my work system... (even after closing the last tab and reopening the program). Hah, it even has in-app purchases, for AI writing...

Microslop at its best.

I’m struggling to understand what their end goal is. How much can you half ass everything until your entire company becomes just a nuisance.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by FinnKuhn »

The "free" version of outlook that replaced Mail is so bad that it made me finally switch to Thunderbird and I don't see myself going back anytime soon.

The only thing I'm missing sometimes is the Copilot integration, but copy and paste with Thunderbird is still faster than using Copilot in Outlook...

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

knorker wrote: post #16

> like all web apps, it’s slow No, that's a very uninformed take, and contradicted on two fronts: 1. Microsoft's other native apps have gotten unusably slow lately, too. 2. There's definitely plenty of fast web apps. I don't mind snark, but make it factually accurate. This is just Microsoft's poor strategic decision to try to drive as many as possible to Linux. Hell, weren't they bragging recently about managing to m…

What native apps is Microsoft developing as of lately?

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by beart »

netsharc wrote: post #5

Started a new job, with Windows 11. notepad.exe now takes 3 to 4 seconds to load on my work system... (even after closing the last tab and reopening the program). Hah, it even has in-app purchases, for AI writing...

As slow as Windows is (very), once you start adding the corporate security tools on top of it (Crowdstrike) and have to deal with a slow and buggy corporate DNS system, it just becomes unusable.

The only way I can do anything timely now is through WSL.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by fg137 »

The biggest issue I have with new outlook is meeting notifications (reminders) on Windows.

I see a freaking loading screen with the Outlook logo for 5 seconds before the window is updated with the meeting name along with a button to dismiss it. Yes that's everything in there.

How does Microsoft think this is ok?

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by codeduck »

patates wrote: post #8

> Outlook is based on WebView2, and like all web apps, it’s slow Fastmail also has a web based email client, which is as fast as (if not faster than) Outlook Classic. The new Outlook is just bad. Load order is wrong, it renders everything on every window, loads unnecessary data, etc. Plain annoying.

It would be hilarious if it, like Teams, was backed by Sharepoint. It would also explain a lot about how terrible it is.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by itopaloglu83 »

knorker wrote: post #16

> like all web apps, it’s slow No, that's a very uninformed take, and contradicted on two fronts: 1. Microsoft's other native apps have gotten unusably slow lately, too. 2. There's definitely plenty of fast web apps. I don't mind snark, but make it factually accurate. This is just Microsoft's poor strategic decision to try to drive as many as possible to Linux. Hell, weren't they bragging recently about managing to m…

Another way to say tenth of a second is 100,000,000 nanoseconds.

We have 4GHz computers with 8-16 cores, and it takes 100,000,000 cycles to show the start menu?

Edit: Corrected the scale factor.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by archildress »

patates wrote: post #8

> Outlook is based on WebView2, and like all web apps, it’s slow Fastmail also has a web based email client, which is as fast as (if not faster than) Outlook Classic. The new Outlook is just bad. Load order is wrong, it renders everything on every window, loads unnecessary data, etc. Plain annoying.

Sure seems like all this fancy Copilot coding help they have would've helped develop a better email client.
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