The biggest issue I have had with their subsystem is that of the file system (NTFS). The fact that I can't have long paths and can't soft link seem ridiculous.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you should be able to loopback-mount a "proper" file system (e.g. ext4) from a file on NTFS, and then you'll have no limits other than what ext4 imposes. Of course, you then lose easy interop with the filesystem from Windows side, but that is the inherent trade-off here.
WSL doesn't actually run a Linux kernel; it emulates the syscalls and process environment Linux offers and provides a binary loader. It's WINE in reverse.
So there's no ext4 driver, and no concept of loopback mounts.
I agree that Microsoft should sell the monitor by itself, or at least allow an eGPU accessory, but it seems they're going to 'Apple route' where they fully control hardware and software.
At least on mac you can install Windows, OSx or Linux, with this machine you are stuck with Win10 or Linux
I've never had a good experience trying to install Linux on a Mac. Maybe it's better these days.
The value proposition is the responsive touch-screen. The closest responsive touch screen you can buy today is a 27" Wacom Cintiq, which is $2,299 without a computer, and both lower-resolution (2560x1440 vs 4500x3000) and smaller (27" vs 28") than the Surface Studio. So if you assume that about $2,300 of the device's costs go to the display and touch screen, you're paying ~$700 for the actual machine driving that dis…
> "you're paying ~$700 for the actual machine driving that display" ~$700 gets you a pretty basic computer with 965m, you can build a desktop with gtx 1070 for 700$ to power a wacom display. And you will be able to upgrade it in the future, with Studio you are stuck with a 965m for $3000. And if you are getting a 980m for $4200 that leaves you with a $1900 to build a computer for Wacom, which can be way more powerful…
At least on mac you can install Windows, OSx or Linux, with this machine you are stuck with Win10 or Linux
> with this machine Isn't that also true for pretty much every computer except Apple's?
If the pc components happen to be compatible (current or previously used components in Apple hardware), it's possible to install OSX/macOS on it, hackintosh style[1].
Pure SSD's have come down in price so much that it's irresponsible to spec out a computer for professional use without one. The SSD impacts every single aspect of computer performance - from startup times, to application start times, to swap space speed, to reducing times when the computer is locked up loading from disk. And these days, a 1 TB SSD can be had for around $300 USD - at which point, there is no obvious n…
Just for a note, those 1TB cheap SSDs are not very good or very compact SSDs. The new ones we associate with such stellar performance are still more expensive. This device has some pretty intense performance requirements for the form factor. Could we wait a bit for some hands-on with reviewers before saying MS botched it?
A not very good SSD is going to be better than an SSHD.
Sorry but unless this is a glorified exec office decoration, professionals care about the specs very much, especially at that resolution and price tag
I'm a pro. I'm an experienced programmer, amateur photographer, edit home videos a lot and do a bunch of computationally expensive tasks on my workstation. Whilst I'd like to have the absolute latest, cutting edge GPU from AMD/NVIDIA I also appreciate that sometimes last gen parts are cheaper, more reliable (having benefitted from refinement over the manufacturing run) and sometimes cooler running than what's new. I…
I can kind of understanding skimping on the GPU because in a lot of cases it won't be necessary, and obsessing over high-power gpus for people who don't need them becomes unnecessary hand wringing. What I really can't get behind is the use of hybrid drives. That is really quite bad, and I can guarantee that anyone who uses this machine daily would notice a huge difference. The SSDs wouldn't have to be large capacity, but to not even offer them is pretty shocking TBH.
I agree that Microsoft should sell the monitor by itself, or at least allow an eGPU accessory, but it seems they're going to 'Apple route' where they fully control hardware and software.
At least on mac you can install Windows, OSx or Linux, with this machine you are stuck with Win10 or Linux
Unless something has changed, it's annoying as hell to actually install Linux or Windows over the entire hard drive. They want some specific bits at the front of the hard drive.
As an Apple (Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, PowerBook, PowerMac G5) user for 15 years, of photo processing & inDesign layout, I agree. XCode & iOS development is going to keep me on Apple for now, though, but the Linux subsystem for Windows is really appealing. The BSD Unix environment is the whole reason I went with Apple in the first place. OS X is basically a Unix workstation & perfected anything the Linux desktop wanted t…
"Linux subsystem for Windows is really appealing." Have you actually tried it out? I thought nobody anymore believed in this after the first versions came out and people actually had a chance to try it in action. There are endless amounts of bugs, unimplemented features, complications between 2 filesystems, permissions, applications etc. When MS announced this I was pretty hopeful. Not that I would change my dev-comp…
I run a Windows 10 PC at work with the Linux Subsystem enabled. It has been a godsend. We are historically a C# shop, but have a new front-end web server in NodeJS. I continue to work on a PC because the NodeJS site consumes C# web services. I will sometimes work on the C# service and the node site at the same time and have the Node site point to my local builds of the C# services. Before, I used to use Vagrant, but it was extremely finicky and would break or corrupt randomly. While I know NodeJS runs on native windows, certain dependencies such as Couchbase have given me pain trying to get working. Now I do my NodeJS work running inside the Linux Subsystem. It's been extremely performant, and I always catch case sensitive bugs and other Linux issues that the Mac developers miss due to have a case insensitive file system.
$2,999 and the best GPU option is a last-gen mobile card? The default 965M is a crappy budget card (half the performance of the 980M), and if you want the 980M you have to pick the $4,199 configuration. And hybrid drives!? This thing starts at $2,199 and you can't even get a full SSD? I know 2D designers probably won't mind the GPU, but they could definitely benefit from a true SSD. Hell, the recently announced Razer…
Wow so much hate. The tilting screen, a phenomenal display that looks sexy, specs to match the intended graphic workload and all you could see were "specs".
$2,999 and the best GPU option is a last-gen mobile card? The default 965M is a crappy budget card (half the performance of the 980M), and if you want the 980M you have to pick the $4,199 configuration. And hybrid drives!? This thing starts at $2,199 and you can't even get a full SSD? I know 2D designers probably won't mind the GPU, but they could definitely benefit from a true SSD. Hell, the recently announced Razer…
The fact you're focusing on the hardware specs while completely dismissing the form factor tells me you're not the target market.